Users and groups, but no teams. Really? I don´t get it...
Hello everybody, I have CalendarServer up and running. I have replaced the demo users by two real accounts. I can configure groups and ressources and… All is working fine. However — how is this thing intended to be used in teams in a small business environment? I don´t get it. Possibly I should describe what we are doing at the moment in iCal +WebDAV. We want to rebuild that features with DCS plus getting more flexible, because publishing ics files over webdav doesn´t allow multiple user writing into one calendar. At them moment everyone here (30 people) has a local calendar. They publish via webdav on our webserver. A little perl script I wrote samples those calendars every 5 minutes to team calendar files. People subscribe to that files. So, if „Carl“ creates an event in his calendar, this event after 5 minutes also appears in the created calendars "project managers" and "CEOs", prefixed with "Carl: ". Because Carl is member of those groups. Susan is member of "project managers", but not in "CEOs", so her events appear in the first calendar, but not in the second. {To be exact, Carl publishes a second calendar which is semi-private. When sampled to the team-calender, the content is replaced by "Carl private", so others can see Carl is not inhouse, but not why. But I thing this is out of scope here atm.} If I want to find a good time for a meeting of all project managers, in iCal I switch of all calendars except "project managers" and look for a gap. That works great - but, unfortunately, in example our reception can SEE when the boss is not here, but she can make or change no entries for him. That´s why we want to use DCS. I cannot find a way to create such "real" teams with iCal and CalendarServer. I looks like the "groups" create nothing visual in iCal. Here is my testing environment: I have setup my account "Jörg" in iCal/Mac/Leo. Then I took an old Powerbook, same config, and created a second worker, my colleague "Mr. Laptop". Good. Now our little company has two workers. Both can create their own calendar events in their own calendar. Now I want me and Mr. Laptop work in a team, the "IT Department". So I created a group "it_department", added us both as users and expected a folder "IT Department" appear magically somewhere in iCal, containing one or two calendars, Mr. Laptops and my events. It didn´t. Hm… I played with proxies to find out a person cannot have a proxy, only a ressource can. Then I played with ressources and locations. That allows us to share the same calendar, however, since we cannot see *who* made the event it ´s useless as a team calendar. "At the customer". Who is at the customer? Me? Mr. Laptop? I had expected that with one account I can see the calendars of every worker in the company in a separate calendar, r/w or r/o as I, the admin, configured it on the server, and I can switch on/off the people I am interested to see in iCal and can somehow (un-)mark the teams/ groups and find the same event in the calendar "Carl" and a different calendar "Project Managers". Groups. Teams. Units. Members. Find a time where all project managers are inhouse. Or the "Customer Miller Team". For me it doesn´t look like a group calendar. It looks like people can others have a look at their own and others calendar. And possibly change it. But it´s all about individuals, and the "group" feature is for giving access privileges, but not for real working groups. There are no working groups in DCS. Am I missing something? Am I wrong? Thanks in advance, Jörg
On 09.10.2008, at 18:51, Jörg Roßdeutscher wrote:
A little perl script I wrote samples those calendars every 5 minutes to team calendar files.
Not related to your question, but can you publish that perl script? Its close to something I'm looking for :-) (Actually I'm looking for a script which walks over iCal files and generates a freebusy file for a given timerange/attendee) Thanks, Helge -- Helge Hess http://zideone.com/
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