Hi there, I'm running CalendarServer in the latest Version on my iMac for testing. Most is fine. May goal was to have in my calendar in ical the appointments both on my iMac and MacBook. Well and some other Calendars for resources. If I make new Appointment in the normal calendar (not stored on CalDAV) I can invite attendees without problem. If I start to type I get people out of the adressbook and mail sends perfect. But the first problem is when I schedule an appointment with 3 people from my company I have to type the email address like it is in teh accounts.xml that CalendarServer will notice them. If I just type the name or ID nothing will happen. The next problem is that I can't sent to an attendee from outside. Even if I drag an drop the vcard to my server based calendar. In the terminal I get a message that there was an error during post. I don't want to have to keep for one appointment 2 records one in the normal iCal calendar and one in the server based one. What do I wrong - or is it just not possible what I want? The next problem is that I want to delegate a calendar for reading to another person. It looks like it dosn't work with iCal. Is there an other way? Thank you for you help in advance! Kind Regards Gerhard
Hi Gerhard, 1: Yeah, for some very strange reason, Apple has choosen to make an Enterprise calendar server that will not work in an enterprise environment. Seems they don't think it's important to keep the featureset of standalone iCal functionality in a corporate environment. I would like to know where that one and only - very lonely - company exists, that never invite customers or partners to a meeting, is. iCal Server 1.x seems to have a featureset that only allows you to invite people in the Directory (OD or XML based). From what I can read from the 10.6 road map, version 2 will add the exiting new feature of being able to handle 3.th. party attendees to events... so, we are all left in our own internal meeting loop for the next year. I can see for me, the Dilbert strip... Sorry if I sound a bit negative in this regard, but we have more than one custumer that are 'b bit pissed' over this situation, as the 10.4 version did all they needed, and now that are actually set back on feature set, in order to see each others availability... bad move Apple... ! 2: Delegation, as far as I know, Only works with Open Directory based accounts. iCal does not know how to use XML based accounts. You NEED to have an OD set up in Directory Utility for this to work. Hope it helps, Jakob Peterhänsel "Be a part of the Love Generation - carry a smile, not a gun." - JP, May 2006 Email: jakob@hjemme.dk AIM: Marook Phone: +45 30787715 On 25/06/2008, at 12.52, Gerhard Rauth wrote:
Hi there,
I'm running CalendarServer in the latest Version on my iMac for testing. Most is fine. May goal was to have in my calendar in ical the appointments both on my iMac and MacBook. Well and some other Calendars for resources. If I make new Appointment in the normal calendar (not stored on CalDAV) I can invite attendees without problem. If I start to type I get people out of the adressbook and mail sends perfect. But the first problem is when I schedule an appointment with 3 people from my company I have to type the email address like it is in teh accounts.xml that CalendarServer will notice them. If I just type the name or ID nothing will happen. The next problem is that I can't sent to an attendee from outside. Even if I drag an drop the vcard to my server based calendar. In the terminal I get a message that there was an error during post.
I don't want to have to keep for one appointment 2 records one in the normal iCal calendar and one in the server based one. What do I wrong - or is it just not possible what I want?
The next problem is that I want to delegate a calendar for reading to another person. It looks like it dosn't work with iCal. Is there an other way?
Thank you for you help in advance!
Kind Regards
Gerhard
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Hi Jakob, thanks for the Information. I thought that I'm stupid, but now I know that I was right and it's a lack of CalendarServer. Have a nice time. Kind Regards Gerhard Rauth Am 06.07.2008 um 12:30 schrieb Jakob Peterhänsel:
Hi Gerhard,
1: Yeah, for some very strange reason, Apple has choosen to make an Enterprise calendar server that will not work in an enterprise environment. Seems they don't think it's important to keep the featureset of standalone iCal functionality in a corporate environment. I would like to know where that one and only - very lonely - company exists, that never invite customers or partners to a meeting, is. iCal Server 1.x seems to have a featureset that only allows you to invite people in the Directory (OD or XML based). From what I can read from the 10.6 road map, version 2 will add the exiting new feature of being able to handle 3.th. party attendees to events... so, we are all left in our own internal meeting loop for the next year. I can see for me, the Dilbert strip...
Sorry if I sound a bit negative in this regard, but we have more than one custumer that are 'b bit pissed' over this situation, as the 10.4 version did all they needed, and now that are actually set back on feature set, in order to see each others availability... bad move Apple... !
2: Delegation, as far as I know, Only works with Open Directory based accounts. iCal does not know how to use XML based accounts. You NEED to have an OD set up in Directory Utility for this to work.
Hope it helps,
Jakob Peterhänsel
"Be a part of the Love Generation - carry a smile, not a gun." - JP, May 2006
Email: jakob@hjemme.dk AIM: Marook Phone: +45 30787715
On 25/06/2008, at 12.52, Gerhard Rauth wrote:
Hi there,
I'm running CalendarServer in the latest Version on my iMac for testing. Most is fine. May goal was to have in my calendar in ical the appointments both on my iMac and MacBook. Well and some other Calendars for resources. If I make new Appointment in the normal calendar (not stored on CalDAV) I can invite attendees without problem. If I start to type I get people out of the adressbook and mail sends perfect. But the first problem is when I schedule an appointment with 3 people from my company I have to type the email address like it is in teh accounts.xml that CalendarServer will notice them. If I just type the name or ID nothing will happen. The next problem is that I can't sent to an attendee from outside. Even if I drag an drop the vcard to my server based calendar. In the terminal I get a message that there was an error during post.
I don't want to have to keep for one appointment 2 records one in the normal iCal calendar and one in the server based one. What do I wrong - or is it just not possible what I want?
The next problem is that I want to delegate a calendar for reading to another person. It looks like it dosn't work with iCal. Is there an other way?
Thank you for you help in advance!
Kind Regards
Gerhard
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So I am wondering this: Is the caldavserver community able to make changes for additional features/enhancements and check them back in to the tree or are changes strictly controlled by Apple? Would community contributions/changes require a divergent source tree located elsewhere? Eric Linn Rabinowitz On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Gerhard Rauth wrote: Hi Jakob, thanks for the Information. I thought that I'm stupid, but now I know that I was right and it's a lack of CalendarServer. Have a nice time. Kind Regards Gerhard Rauth Am 06.07.2008 um 12:30 schrieb Jakob Peterhänsel:
Hi Gerhard,
1: Yeah, for some very strange reason, Apple has choosen to make an Enterprise calendar server that will not work in an enterprise environment. Seems they don't think it's important to keep the featureset of standalone iCal functionality in a corporate environment. I would like to know where that one and only - very lonely - company exists, that never invite customers or partners to a meeting, is. iCal Server 1.x seems to have a featureset that only allows you to invite people in the Directory (OD or XML based). From what I can read from the 10.6 road map, version 2 will add the exiting new feature of being able to handle 3.th. party attendees to events... so, we are all left in our own internal meeting loop for the next year. I can see for me, the Dilbert strip...
Sorry if I sound a bit negative in this regard, but we have more than one custumer that are 'b bit pissed' over this situation, as the 10.4 version did all they needed, and now that are actually set back on feature set, in order to see each others availability... bad move Apple... !
2: Delegation, as far as I know, Only works with Open Directory based accounts. iCal does not know how to use XML based accounts. You NEED to have an OD set up in Directory Utility for this to work.
Hope it helps,
Jakob Peterhänsel
"Be a part of the Love Generation - carry a smile, not a gun." - JP, May 2006
Email: jakob@hjemme.dk AIM: Marook Phone: +45 30787715
On 25/06/2008, at 12.52, Gerhard Rauth wrote:
Hi there,
I'm running CalendarServer in the latest Version on my iMac for testing. Most is fine. May goal was to have in my calendar in ical the appointments both on my iMac and MacBook. Well and some other Calendars for resources. If I make new Appointment in the normal calendar (not stored on CalDAV) I can invite attendees without problem. If I start to type I get people out of the adressbook and mail sends perfect. But the first problem is when I schedule an appointment with 3 people from my company I have to type the email address like it is in teh accounts.xml that CalendarServer will notice them. If I just type the name or ID nothing will happen. The next problem is that I can't sent to an attendee from outside. Even if I drag an drop the vcard to my server based calendar. In the terminal I get a message that there was an error during post.
I don't want to have to keep for one appointment 2 records one in the normal iCal calendar and one in the server based one. What do I wrong - or is it just not possible what I want?
The next problem is that I want to delegate a calendar for reading to another person. It looks like it dosn't work with iCal. Is there an other way?
Thank you for you help in advance!
Kind Regards
Gerhard
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On 07.07.2008, at 21:54, Eric Rabinowitz wrote:
So I am wondering this: Is the caldavserver community able to make changes for additional features/enhancements and check them back in to the tree or are changes strictly controlled by Apple? Would community contributions/changes require a divergent source tree located elsewhere?
Whats the point in discussing that before having a patch? First develop a patch, then either push it upstream or see whether there is a need for a fork. Pretty simple, isn't it? :-) Thanks, Helge -- Helge Hess http://helgehess.eu/
Helge, It's very worth discussing so that the work (or ANY future potential contributions) are not for a single point distribution in time and then it is lost work & effort. Eric Linn Rabinowitz eric@panoramic.org 415.336.6938 mobile 512.494.4914 home/office N6LG On Jul 7, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Helge Heß wrote: On 07.07.2008, at 21:54, Eric Rabinowitz wrote:
So I am wondering this: Is the caldavserver community able to make changes for additional features/enhancements and check them back in to the tree or are changes strictly controlled by Apple? Would community contributions/changes require a divergent source tree located elsewhere?
Whats the point in discussing that before having a patch? First develop a patch, then either push it upstream or see whether there is a need for a fork. Pretty simple, isn't it? :-) Thanks, Helge -- Helge Hess http://helgehess.eu/ _______________________________________________ calendarserver-users mailing list calendarserver-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/calendarserver-users
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 05:05:38PM -0500, Eric Rabinowitz wrote:
It's very worth discussing so that the work (or ANY future potential contributions) are not for a single point distribution in time and then it is lost work & effort. You will always have forks - that's the hole point of free software - modify it as you see fit. Keep your changes as separate patches/source tree until they are merged upstream - especially easy with a distributed VCS like mercurial or git.
We had and have several changes in pykerberos/calendarserver to make it work on better on Linux and add more funtionality. All of this is in trac and so far things got merged eventually. Although it would certainly be nice if the developers with SVN commit access had a bit more time to work on the bugs (especially those with patches) in trac. So as Helge said: until there's a patch there's no point worrying if it'll get applied. -- Guido
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Eric Rabinowitz
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