Hi, all. From reading through the archive it would appear that buildorder needs .plists ( "<build>od1.plist" ) with project group information to function correctly. The only references I can find have them stored at opendarwin.org, which isn't around any more. Are these files still being produced? and if so, where can I get them? I'm currently trying to build 9E17 on 10.5.4 with XCode 3.0 and the latest trunk darwinbuild, and I'm unsure whether the build failures I'm getting (across multiple projects) are due to dependencies or other problems in my toolchain, so I'd like to rule out the former. Failing that, can anyone suggest / point me in the direction of an optimal build order list. I've know about "darwinxref dependencies - build <project>", but the results seem to be circular / recursive so I though I'd pick some smarter brains instead. Thanks, Stuart Crook