While I build the Perl software I'm experiencing an issue that involves setrgid and setruid not being implemented. I've tried editing the hints.append file with no success. Seems that this isn't being supported for some reason however I'm not experiencing any build problems. As a side test, I tried building the Perl for 10.4 under 10.3.9 and it builds without issue but also experiences the same problem with setrgid and setruid. Going a step further, I substituted 5.8.6 with 5.8.7, tar'd it back up and this built without problems but also experiences the setrgid and setruid problem. One thing I did notice when I upped the perl to 5.8.7 was that it warned about two patches which seemed to already be applied but this was the only issue that was reported and no build errors were experienced. I made a minor change to the patch file and this resolved the warning about a previously applied patch. I then installed OSXS 10.4, upgraded to 10.4.3 and tried to build the perl software and it seems that it also suffers the same problem with setrgid and setruid. I've checked unistd.h in both the 7W98 and 8C47 and the entries exist for these functions so I'm not sure what's causing the problem. Also, under 10.3.9 I am unable to build darwinbuild-0.7.x due to a redefinition and a conflict of types for readlink. -- Dale