Pierre Queinnec wrote:

Here are two mails T. Valkonen sent respectively to FreeBSD Ports [1] and pkgsrc [2], warning them of a license violation on his software, ion3 (x11/ion3).

I'll be committing a removal of the port in 5 days if nobody wants to step up and take ownership from me. Then again, I'm not sure this serves the "community" best interest to keep it in the ports. Apologies to the ion3 users that will be forced to compile it themselves. I suggest you keep the Portfile in a private repository should you know how to do this, so you can still benefit from MacPorts build and upgrade cycles.

For me this sounds like a removal request... What is the problem with a version more than 28 days old? In my personal opinion ion3 with this license addition does not qualify as free software any more. Definitely remove it. Rainer

Markus Weissmann wrote:

Hi Pierre,

thanks for bringing this up here: Mr. Valkonen's license is absolutely unbearable. As an alternative: Perhaps you can bring the port back to the last sane licensed version - don't know if this is useful and/or possible. Either that or remove it please.

Markus, That was the choice OpenBSD made. they reverted back to an older version before the absurd '28 days' restriction. FreeBSD and several other OS's have decided not to jeopardize their 3rd party management systems with such an obnoxious license, and have removed it completely. Hope that helps, Jeff Palmer P.S. I don't normally like to crosspost, so sorry for this (I used reply-all)

On 2007-12-14 15:26:12 +0100, Markus Weissmann wrote:

thanks for bringing this up here: Mr. Valkonen's license is absolutely unbearable. As an alternative: Perhaps you can bring the port back to the last sane licensed version - don't know if this is useful and/or possible. Either that or remove it please.

Or change the name of the software. These restrictions apply only in this case: [quoted from the LICENSE file] If the name Ion(tm) or other names that can be associated with the Ion project are used to distribute this software, then: [/quoted] FYI, Firefox has been renamed as Iceweasel under Debian for similar reasons (though Mozilla put fewer restrictions on the use of the name "Firefox"). -- Vincent Lefèvre <vincent@vinc17.org> - Web: <http://www.vinc17.org/> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <http://www.vinc17.org/blog/> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)

Interesting idea; this brings yet another possibility. The only problem I could see with that strategy is yet-another-license-change forbidding derivative works. If PortMgr thinks this is the way it should be handled, we could do the rename in the Debian fashion, but personally I won't be maintaining it in the future. I've stopped using it actively and only maintained it to help. The other proposal was to keep the last good version but this was a release candidate and I seem to remember a nasty problem with the window naming. To sum it up, I'll commit a port with a message explaining what happened, just like Ryan suggested. If someone is interested in reviving the port as 'particleman', feel free to do so. -- Pierre Rainer Müller wrote:

Vincent Lefevre wrote:

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Or change the name of the software. These restrictions apply only in this case:

[quoted from the LICENSE file] If the name Ion(tm) or other names that can be associated with the Ion project are used to distribute this software, then: [/quoted]

Seems like Debian did this and renamed ion3 to ParticleMan. At least I found this blog entry [1] about it and the packages are already in some trees. As an alternative of removing it, maybe we can just grab the sources from them and keep it with another name?

Rainer

[1] http://womble.decadent.org.uk/blog/introducing-particleman.html _______________________________________________ macports-dev mailing list macports-dev@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-dev