Is MacPorts officially no longer supporting Jaguar? What happens if you try to install MacPorts on Jaguar? What happens if you manage to install MacPorts on Jaguar -- can you run it? I see changes were committed to the documentation indicating only 10.3 and later are supported. I see several ports including darwin 6 platform selectors that just output a message that the port doesn't work on that platform. If we are officially no longer supporting Jaguar, then MacPorts should decline to install on that OS, port should decline to run on that OS, and we should remove all darwin 6 platform selectors from all ports.
On Jun 21, 2007, at 5:35 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
Is MacPorts officially no longer supporting Jaguar?
Our policy (from quite a while ago) is to support the current Mac OS X major release, and the one previous to it (so currently 10.4 and 10.3).
If we are officially no longer supporting Jaguar, then MacPorts should decline to install on that OS, port should decline to run on that OS, and we should remove all darwin 6 platform selectors from all ports.
I think it's better to make the policy clear to the end-user and let them try to make things work if they want to (and I don't think the project would be opposed to including patches to fix things on older 'non-supported' releases, just like how we're happy to include fixes for other operating systems that aren't them main focus of macports). -- Daniel J. Luke +========================================================+ | *---------------- dluke@geeklair.net ----------------* | | *-------------- http://www.geeklair.net -------------* | +========================================================+ | Opinions expressed are mine and do not necessarily | | reflect the opinions of my employer. | +========================================================+
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 09:31:25AM -0400, Daniel J. Luke wrote:
On Jun 21, 2007, at 5:35 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
Is MacPorts officially no longer supporting Jaguar?
Our policy (from quite a while ago) is to support the current Mac OS X major release, and the one previous to it (so currently 10.4 and 10.3).
If we are officially no longer supporting Jaguar, then MacPorts should decline to install on that OS, port should decline to run on that OS, and we should remove all darwin 6 platform selectors from all ports.
I think it's better to make the policy clear to the end-user and let them try to make things work if they want to (and I don't think the project would be opposed to including patches to fix things on older 'non-supported' releases, just like how we're happy to include fixes for other operating systems that aren't them main focus of macports).
I agree, I don't see a reason to take actions to make supporting older OS versions more difficult. Perhaps a message to the user (at install time, that they have to ack) indicating their OS version is no longer officially supported would be good. -eric
On Jun 27, 2007, at 12:49, Eric Hall wrote:
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 09:31:25AM -0400, Daniel J. Luke wrote:
On Jun 21, 2007, at 5:35 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
Is MacPorts officially no longer supporting Jaguar?
Our policy (from quite a while ago) is to support the current Mac OS X major release, and the one previous to it (so currently 10.4 and 10.3).
If we are officially no longer supporting Jaguar, then MacPorts should decline to install on that OS, port should decline to run on that OS, and we should remove all darwin 6 platform selectors from all ports.
I think it's better to make the policy clear to the end-user and let them try to make things work if they want to (and I don't think the project would be opposed to including patches to fix things on older 'non-supported' releases, just like how we're happy to include fixes for other operating systems that aren't them main focus of macports).
I agree, I don't see a reason to take actions to make supporting older OS versions more difficult. Perhaps a message to the user (at install time, that they have to ack) indicating their OS version is no longer officially supported would be good.
I think the from-source installer is not interactive, and the dmg installer uses Apple Installer which doesn't provide a way to prompt users for arbitrary questions... I'm ok with keeping old Jaguar stuff in the portfiles. This desire should however be clearly communicated to all portfile authors then, mentioned in the (absent) documentation, etc. I have previously received patches that have explicitly removed Jaguar support from my portfiles, on the sole basis that it's no longer supported by MacPorts. (See e.g. ticket #11934.)
Ryan Schmidt wrote:
On Jun 27, 2007, at 12:49, Eric Hall wrote:
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 09:31:25AM -0400, Daniel J. Luke wrote:
I'm ok with keeping old Jaguar stuff in the portfiles. This desire should however be clearly communicated to all portfile authors then, mentioned in the (absent) documentation, etc. I have previously received patches that have explicitly removed Jaguar support from my portfiles, on the sole basis that it's no longer supported by MacPorts. (See e.g. ticket #11934.)
Definitely agree on keeping support for older operating systems in the Portfiles. Regards, Blair
On 28/06/2007, at 05:33, Blair Zajac wrote:
Definitely agree on keeping support for older operating systems in the Portfiles.
That gets my agreement as well. I remember getting Darwinports (as it then was) working on Jaguar by installing Tcl/TkAqua [1] on the iBook that I then had -- that took care of the Tcl 8.4.x features that Darwinports itself required, as Jaguar shipped with Tcl 8.3.x [2]. As long as we continue to provide the other shims like cups- headers and dlcompat, I don't think that there should be much impediment to MacPorts continuing to work on Jaguar, albeit unofficially. Kind regards, Maun Suang [1] http://tcltkaqua.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.2.8/tcl-5/tcl/ ChangeLog -- Boey Maun Suang (Boey is my surname) Email: boeyms at macports dot org
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Blair Zajac
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Boey Maun Suang
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Daniel J. Luke
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Eric Hall
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Ryan Schmidt