1.6.0 sometime late next week
Some changes have been made to the release_1_6 branch since rc2 was tagged, but none that affects any structural behavior of our sources and as such risks the introduction of new bugs. Therefore I think we should be good to go with branches/release_1_6 ToT (plus any small modifications that might be made to trunk, like my work on PortIndex2MySQL) for release of 1.6.0 sometime late next week, as I manage to coordinate with Bill to replace the old website and roll live the new one. Nothing has been reported against 1.6.0-rc2, as far as I've been able to see (please do correct me if I'm wrong), so I think this is a good schedule; I'd do it sooner, but I'm a bit short of time at the moment. Speak up if you have any concerns. Regards,... -jmpp
On Nov 22, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:
Some changes have been made to the release_1_6 branch since rc2 was tagged, but none that affects any structural behavior of our sources and as such risks the introduction of new bugs. Therefore I think we should be good to go with branches/release_1_6 ToT (plus any small modifications that might be made to trunk, like my work on PortIndex2MySQL) for release of 1.6.0 sometime late next week, as I manage to coordinate with Bill to replace the old website and roll live the new one.
Nothing has been reported against 1.6.0-rc2, as far as I've been able to see (please do correct me if I'm wrong), so I think this is a good schedule; I'd do it sooner, but I'm a bit short of time at the moment. Speak up if you have any concerns.
Regards,...
-jmpp
Forgot to say: I'll of course be addressing in the coming days the outstanding issues that were raised in the rc2 thread a couple of days ago. -jmpp
On Nov 22, 2007, at 3:33 PM, Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:
On Nov 22, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:
Some changes have been made to the release_1_6 branch since rc2 was tagged, but none that affects any structural behavior of our sources and as such risks the introduction of new bugs. Therefore I think we should be good to go with branches/release_1_6 ToT (plus any small modifications that might be made to trunk, like my work on PortIndex2MySQL) for release of 1.6.0 sometime late next week, as I manage to coordinate with Bill to replace the old website and roll live the new one.
Nothing has been reported against 1.6.0-rc2, as far as I've been able to see (please do correct me if I'm wrong), so I think this is a good schedule; I'd do it sooner, but I'm a bit short of time at the moment. Speak up if you have any concerns.
Regards,...
-jmpp
Forgot to say: I'll of course be addressing in the coming days the outstanding issues that were raised in the rc2 thread a couple of days ago.
Another thing I forgot to say: I don't currently have a Panther machine I can use, so I don't see it as likely that I'll be building a dmg for OS (and, for that matter, I don't have a Tiger one at the moment either, but I'm more than sure that'll be much simpler to come by). So if anyone has a Panther box, has an interest for a dmg for that platform and feels like lending a hand, please do coordinate with me to put together that dmg. Chris, you still have your Panther box? If we don't come by one I'll simply remove mention of it from the new website and will tell stragglers that we simply don't have the resources to produce it. Regards,... -jmpp
On 22 Nov 2007, at 14:44, Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:
On Nov 22, 2007, at 3:33 PM, Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:
On Nov 22, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:
Some changes have been made to the release_1_6 branch since rc2 was tagged, but none that affects any structural behavior of our sources and as such risks the introduction of new bugs. Therefore I think we should be good to go with branches/release_1_6 ToT (plus any small modifications that might be made to trunk, like my work on PortIndex2MySQL) for release of 1.6.0 sometime late next week, as I manage to coordinate with Bill to replace the old website and roll live the new one.
Nothing has been reported against 1.6.0-rc2, as far as I've been able to see (please do correct me if I'm wrong), so I think this is a good schedule; I'd do it sooner, but I'm a bit short of time at the moment. Speak up if you have any concerns.
Regards,...
-jmpp
Forgot to say: I'll of course be addressing in the coming days the outstanding issues that were raised in the rc2 thread a couple of days ago.
Another thing I forgot to say: I don't currently have a Panther machine I can use, so I don't see it as likely that I'll be building a dmg for OS (and, for that matter, I don't have a Tiger one at the moment either, but I'm more than sure that'll be much simpler to come by).
So if anyone has a Panther box, has an interest for a dmg for that platform and feels like lending a hand, please do coordinate with me to put together that dmg. Chris, you still have your Panther box?
If we don't come by one I'll simply remove mention of it from the new website and will tell stragglers that we simply don't have the resources to produce it.
Is there any reason not to simply state that Panther users need to download the 1.5.2 disk image and install from that and ensure that selfupdate is run (if it isn't already run during the install from the disk image)? Also is there any reason not to use our sourceforge site as the download source? Randall Wood rhwood@mac.com http://shyramblings.blogspot.com "The rules are simple: The ball is round. The game lasts 90 minutes. All the rest is just philosophy."
On Nov 22, 2007, at 9:37 PM, Randall Wood wrote:
Another thing I forgot to say: I don't currently have a Panther machine I can use, so I don't see it as likely that I'll be building a dmg for OS (and, for that matter, I don't have a Tiger one at the moment either, but I'm more than sure that'll be much simpler to come by).
So if anyone has a Panther box, has an interest for a dmg for that platform and feels like lending a hand, please do coordinate with me to put together that dmg. Chris, you still have your Panther box?
If we don't come by one I'll simply remove mention of it from the new website and will tell stragglers that we simply don't have the resources to produce it.
Is there any reason not to simply state that Panther users need to download the 1.5.2 disk image and install from that and ensure that selfupdate is run (if it isn't already run during the install from the disk image)?
That's certainly an alternative, sure. If we don't get anyone to produce a Panther dmg for 1.6.0 we could definitely go that way. Thanks for the suggestion.
Also is there any reason not to use our sourceforge site as the download source?
Sorry, didn't remember we had a presence there ;-) How would we go about using it? We would still get our release products up on our own site & repository, but if we can also leverage the sourceforge distribution engine, then by all means! Can you please coordinate that? Regards,... -jmpp
On 22 Nov, 2007, at 14:44, Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:
Another thing I forgot to say: I don't currently have a Panther machine I can use, so I don't see it as likely that I'll be building a dmg for OS (and, for that matter, I don't have a Tiger one at the moment either, but I'm more than sure that'll be much simpler to come by).
So if anyone has a Panther box, has an interest for a dmg for that platform and feels like lending a hand, please do coordinate with me to put together that dmg. Chris, you still have your Panther box?
I still have that partition around. I don't *like* rebooting (that box is currently at 84 days uptime) but I can do it. Regards, Chris
Hi Juan,
So if anyone has a Panther box, has an interest for a dmg for that platform and feels like lending a hand, please do coordinate with me to put together that dmg.
I bought a second-hand one few months ago just for MacPorts (no, I don't have much money, I just spend it wisely :P ), so I'd be happy to do it. There may be a couple of days turnaround, though, as I'm currently shuttling between two places of residence throughout each week, and it'd be a bit hard to carry a PowerMac dual G5 and 20" cinema display every day on foot. Kind regards, Maun Suang -- Boey Maun Suang (Boey is my surname) Email: boeyms at macports dot org
On Nov 22, 2007, at 20:35, Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:
On Nov 22, 2007, at 9:37 PM, Randall Wood wrote:
Another thing I forgot to say: I don't currently have a Panther machine I can use, so I don't see it as likely that I'll be building a dmg for OS (and, for that matter, I don't have a Tiger one at the moment either, but I'm more than sure that'll be much simpler to come by).
So if anyone has a Panther box, has an interest for a dmg for that platform and feels like lending a hand, please do coordinate with me to put together that dmg. Chris, you still have your Panther box?
If we don't come by one I'll simply remove mention of it from the new website and will tell stragglers that we simply don't have the resources to produce it.
Is there any reason not to simply state that Panther users need to download the 1.5.2 disk image and install from that and ensure that selfupdate is run (if it isn't already run during the install from the disk image)?
That's certainly an alternative, sure. If we don't get anyone to produce a Panther dmg for 1.6.0 we could definitely go that way. Thanks for the suggestion.
Let's produce a Panther disk image. I can scare up a Panther machine if necessary. Randall, I assume you meant the 1.5.0 disk image, since we don't have disk images for minor versions, only major versions.
Also is there any reason not to use our sourceforge site as the download source?
Sorry, didn't remember we had a presence there ;-) How would we go about using it? We would still get our release products up on our own site & repository, but if we can also leverage the sourceforge distribution engine, then by all means! Can you please coordinate that?
I didn't know we had a presence on SourceForge. They have lots of services: downloads, issue tracker, mailing lists, web site. Should we start using those as well? I would say no. We already have an issue tracker, mailing lists, and web site through Mac OS Forge, and we have thus far hosted downloads there as well. Let's continue to host downloads and everything else with Mac OS Forge as well. If Mac OS Forge's download system is insufficient, we should bring that up with Mac OS Forge management, not jump ship to SourceForge. I think we shouldn't be using SourceForge for anything. Not that I have anything against them at all. We just already have alternatives. Let's keep everything in one place.
On 24 Nov 2007, at 04:43, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
On Nov 22, 2007, at 20:35, Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:
On Nov 22, 2007, at 9:37 PM, Randall Wood wrote:
Another thing I forgot to say: I don't currently have a Panther machine I can use, so I don't see it as likely that I'll be building a dmg for OS (and, for that matter, I don't have a Tiger one at the moment either, but I'm more than sure that'll be much simpler to come by).
So if anyone has a Panther box, has an interest for a dmg for that platform and feels like lending a hand, please do coordinate with me to put together that dmg. Chris, you still have your Panther box?
If we don't come by one I'll simply remove mention of it from the new website and will tell stragglers that we simply don't have the resources to produce it.
Is there any reason not to simply state that Panther users need to download the 1.5.2 disk image and install from that and ensure that selfupdate is run (if it isn't already run during the install from the disk image)?
That's certainly an alternative, sure. If we don't get anyone to produce a Panther dmg for 1.6.0 we could definitely go that way. Thanks for the suggestion.
Let's produce a Panther disk image. I can scare up a Panther machine if necessary.
Randall, I assume you meant the 1.5.0 disk image, since we don't have disk images for minor versions, only major versions.
Also is there any reason not to use our sourceforge site as the download source?
Sorry, didn't remember we had a presence there ;-) How would we go about using it? We would still get our release products up on our own site & repository, but if we can also leverage the sourceforge distribution engine, then by all means! Can you please coordinate that?
I didn't know we had a presence on SourceForge. They have lots of services: downloads, issue tracker, mailing lists, web site. Should we start using those as well? I would say no. We already have an issue tracker, mailing lists, and web site through Mac OS Forge, and we have thus far hosted downloads there as well. Let's continue to host downloads and everything else with Mac OS Forge as well. If Mac OS Forge's download system is insufficient, we should bring that up with Mac OS Forge management, not jump ship to SourceForge. I think we shouldn't be using SourceForge for anything. Not that I have anything against them at all. We just already have alternatives. Let's keep everything in one place.
The only really possibly useful service for us that SourceForge (SF) has is that massive geographically dispersed mirrored download service. We snagged a SF site (http://sf.net/projects/macports) because a simple search brought up some macports* sites at SF, and so that someone could not pull a darwinports.com on us, we have it now. http://macports.sourceforge.net redirects to http://www.macports.org From personal experience, SF's tracker is difficult to use, their mailing list service is identical to macosforge's. I have tickets to allow us to point users back to our own services, but doubt I'll get a positive response back soon. If a MacPorts Foundation ever stands up, we could leverage some other related SF services in that regard, but doubt we'll need to. Randall Wood rhwood@mac.com http://shyramblings.blogspot.com "The rules are simple: The ball is round. The game lasts 90 minutes. All the rest is just philosophy."
On Nov 24, 2007, at 6:02 AM, Randall Wood wrote:
I didn't know we had a presence on SourceForge. They have lots of services: downloads, issue tracker, mailing lists, web site. Should we start using those as well? I would say no. We already have an issue tracker, mailing lists, and web site through Mac OS Forge, and we have thus far hosted downloads there as well. Let's continue to host downloads and everything else with Mac OS Forge as well. If Mac OS Forge's download system is insufficient, we should bring that up with Mac OS Forge management, not jump ship to SourceForge. I think we shouldn't be using SourceForge for anything. Not that I have anything against them at all. We just already have alternatives. Let's keep everything in one place.
I'm not advocating we move any of our services anywhere, our relationship with Mac OS Forge is only improving by the day ;-) We will keep using all our regular services on our kind host, including our existing download venues. I did suggest, however, that we:
The only really possibly useful service for us that SourceForge (SF) has is that massive geographically dispersed mirrored download service.
Leverage SoureForge's geographically distributed download mirrors in addition to Mac OS Forge's servers, just for higher availability. Regards,... -jmpp
On Nov 23, 2007, at 4:57 AM, Boey Maun Suang wrote:
Hi Juan,
So if anyone has a Panther box, has an interest for a dmg for that platform and feels like lending a hand, please do coordinate with me to put together that dmg.
I bought a second-hand one few months ago just for MacPorts (no, I don't have much money, I just spend it wisely :P ), so I'd be happy to do it. There may be a couple of days turnaround, though, as I'm currently shuttling between two places of residence throughout each week, and it'd be a bit hard to carry a PowerMac dual G5 and 20" cinema display every day on foot.
Kind regards,
Maun Suang
Thanks to all of you, Maun Suang, Chris and Ryan, for offering to help with the Panther dmg. I'd love to do it with whomever I can coordinate with over AIM and/or IRC, in order to keep a close eye on details. E-mail me privately for contact information if you're not already on IRC (where you can usually find me), please. In any case, the base/portmgr/ReleaseProcess file has some detailed instructions for the dmg too, explaining how to build it and some of the details I believe anyone trying to create it should look out for; reading that will certainly give you a head-start on what needs to be done. Let me know if you have any questions. Regards,... -jmpp
On Nov 25, 2007, at 00:07, Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:
On Nov 23, 2007, at 4:57 AM, Boey Maun Suang wrote:
So if anyone has a Panther box, has an interest for a dmg for that platform and feels like lending a hand, please do coordinate with me to put together that dmg.
I bought a second-hand one few months ago just for MacPorts (no, I don't have much money, I just spend it wisely :P ), so I'd be happy to do it. There may be a couple of days turnaround, though, as I'm currently shuttling between two places of residence throughout each week, and it'd be a bit hard to carry a PowerMac dual G5 and 20" cinema display every day on foot.
Thanks to all of you, Maun Suang, Chris and Ryan, for offering to help with the Panther dmg. I'd love to do it with whomever I can coordinate with over AIM and/or IRC, in order to keep a close eye on details. E-mail me privately for contact information if you're not already on IRC (where you can usually find me), please.
In any case, the base/portmgr/ReleaseProcess file has some detailed instructions for the dmg too, explaining how to build it and some of the details I believe anyone trying to create it should look out for; reading that will certainly give you a head-start on what needs to be done. Let me know if you have any questions.
I'll read that document just to see how things work, but if Maun Suang or Chris can build it without too much trouble I'll defer to them. The only Panther machine I can think of that I could gain access to is a friend's laptop.
participants (5)
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Boey Maun Suang
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Chris Pickel
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Juan Manuel Palacios
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Randall Wood
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Ryan Schmidt