A developer is requesting we delete a port of his. I know MarKus has not been active for awhile. http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/ticket/11072 The request seems reasonable. Any objections to deleting the port? Mark
o A developer is requesting we delete a port of his. I know MarKus has o not been active for awhile. Seems reasonable to me. Is there really nothing we can do about the *.darwinports.com sites? We, as a community, have decided it is a problem. The owner, from the e-mails, claims to want to support (or even be a member of) that community, but acts in contradiction to that claim. The site routinely causes confusion. I've looked through our archives, and the issue seems to have dead-ended at opendarwin trying to buy the site from its owner. The site clearly makes money for its owner and makes it more difficult for people to find our site. Question: 1) We do not have a standard BSD or GPL license. How hard would it be for us to add a term to base/LICENSE that requires any sites attempting to reproduce or mirror information from our site or repository to place a banner a the top of each page indicating that it is duplicating information from our site. 2) In spite of our open source license, I believe that those sites are actually tortuous interference (if not fraud) and open us to legal remedy. If we have any lawyers on this list (which seems unlikely) or on -users (which seems more likely), we could ask for a letter to be drawn up. The ad revenue alone makes this a legal issue. 3) The site contains links to "Powered By DarwinPorts" that point to that site, not ours, which is, at best, misdirection. 4) Since Darwinports.com is using Google AdSense, Google may be particularly sensitive to its fraudulent nature of the site, since having an misleadingly increased page rank that drives revenue to Google could be percieved as Google biasing its listings to improve its own revenue (a claim which it vehemently denies). We could write a letter to Google and ask for their advice on the matter as a starting point. It annoys me, of course, that we work for free and that this site makes money off of it while causing us more work. Since I'm not coding much on MP these days (though I should really get my bit set so I can commit all these ports I keep writing for myself), I wouldn't mind doing some legwork for this. I think I'm in a bad mood this morning. -- Sal P.S. I assume that the site owner is on this list, so please bear in mind that all exchanges on this topic to date have been courteous. smile. -------------- Salvatore Domenick Desiano Doctoral Candidate Robotics Institute Carnegie Mellon University On Sun, 14 Jan 2007, Mark Duling wrote: o o http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/ticket/11072 o o The request seems reasonable. Any objections to deleting the port? o o Mark o o _______________________________________________ o macports-dev mailing list o macports-dev@lists.macosforge.org o http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-dev o o
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Salvatore Domenick Desiano wrote:
1) We do not have a standard BSD or GPL license. How hard would it be for us to add a term to base/LICENSE that requires any sites attempting to reproduce or mirror information from our site or repository to place a banner a the top of each page indicating that it is duplicating information from our site.
In terms of intellectual property, this is more an issue of trademark than of copyright--the brand identity of MacPorts/DarwinPorts instead of complying with the licensing terms of the source code. These are not contradictory--the Mozilla Foundation places extensive restrictions on how the Firefox and Mozilla trademarks can be used, even with an open-source license. Of course, to assert a trademark, there needs to be some legal entity set up to do so. Trademark registration is not required to assert the trademark use, although it makes things easier. For an example of how to do this, see this link: http://fink.sourceforge.net/legal.php - -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFqmLeEsLm8HXyq4sRAoDCAJ9qNiCJongpmH32rvLs3OTQ2wV4+ACfa0Ap YLeq1DmOIZUcVJ7hLQZ8hTU= =JQIY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Salvatore Domenick Desiano