Folks, I got some great suggestions a while back about what may be wrong with my PHP5 port and why it wasn't running. However, I still can't make it work. I think the problem may be in Apache itself - my setup, not the port - because when I try to open an html file on my machine using: http://localhost it comes back with: ********************* Unable to connect Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost. * The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments. * If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection. * If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web. ********************* Likewise, if I use my local network IP: http://10.0.0.2 it still can't connect. If I open the files directly (via Finder) with Firefox they work fine, but with: file::://opt/local/apache2/htdocs/index.html as the URL, so I know it isn't going through Apache for that. Running the port installed command searching for apache comes up with: Mac-The-Knife:/opt/local/apache2/htdocs Captain$ port installed | grep apache2 apache2 @2.2.8_0 (active) php5 @5.2.5_1+apache2+macosx+mysql5 (active) If I read this correctly it means that Apache2 should be running. I would appreciate any help I can get on this problem. In A Chord, Tom Condon Bass, Agate Passage Quartet Bass & Proud Member, Kitsap Chordsmen Dir. Music Education, Evergreen District, BHS