Ohhh boy have I gotten my feet wet.... all i wanted to do was to test php's on my computer and startet out by trying to install php by entropy.. Then i had to install apache2 to get the php 5 features about xml and in the process I forgot all about my not have xcode installed.. So i did everything wrong and in a reversed process. Well so far I seems like what ever I have installed before is messing up linking and paths to fiiles scattered all over my system and I've gotten down to installed macports and selfupdate tells me this.. libtool: unrecognized option `-dynamic' Try `libtool --help' for more information. make[2]: *** [MacPorts.dylib] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 1 what to make of it? I'm on osx 10.4.10 with everything freshly updated.