It states on [1] that java-gnome "It is not likely that the GNOME Java bindings will be ported unless GTK is ported to Aqua.". Why is this? There are ports of pygtk, and gtk-sharp to Macports and it would seem that python and mono have the exact same issues as java. Like Java, both of these run their own interpreter or virtual machine and include other toolkits. Java-gnome is just a layer between java code and GTK and the GTK layer takes care of things on the X11 end. One could run the java code from an X-term and it should work fine. Am I missing something here? Thanks, Bob [1] http://homepage.mac.com/rhwood/macports/gnome.html ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index