the avahi daemon isn't working properly anyway: launchctl shuts it down within a minute or so of boot. Jun 6 19:12:24 white launchd: org.freedesktop.avahi-dnsconfd: respawning too quickly! throttling Jun 6 19:12:24 white launchd: org.freedesktop.avahi-dnsconfd: 1 more failure without living at least 60 seconds will cause job removal Jun 6 19:12:24 white launchd: org.freedesktop.avahi-dnsconfd: will restart in 10 seconds Jun 6 19:12:26 white launchd: org.freedesktop.avahi-daemon: exited with exit code: 255 Don't I already have an mdns responder running in the base OS (he asked rhetorically)? But for this: ---> Unable to uninstall avahi 0.6.16_1, the following ports depend on it: ---> evince ---> vino ---> seahorse ---> evince ---> vino I would take it out. Can a placeholder like what we do for XFree86 be used here? -- Paul Beard words: http://paulbeard.org/wordpress pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pdb206/ Are you trying to win an argument or solve a problem?