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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Overwriting config files (Ryan Schmidt)
   2. su problem after bad meld install (Jenn Mixxmann)
   3. Re: Overwriting config files (Anders F Bj?rklund)
   4. Re: su problem after bad meld install (Ryan Schmidt)
   5. Re: Error building openmotif (Samuel M. Smith)
   6. Re: Error building openmotif (Samuel M. Smith)
   7. Re: Error building openmotif (Simon Ruderich)
   8. Re: Error building openmotif (Jeff Stubbs)
   9. Re: Error building openmotif (Ryan Schmidt)

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Subject: Re: Overwriting config files
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On Aug 17, 2007, at 02:47, Anders F Bj=F6rklund wrote:
...
Ryan Schmidt wrote:
...
Brian Matzon wrote:
...
I have had some issues lately with upgrades overwriting config =20
files (postfix, apache2).
Should I create a ticket for these issues, or is this being fixed =20=
...
...
...
in this ticket:
I noticed this ticket: http://trac.macports.org/projects/macports/=20=
...
...
...
ticket/2365
That ticket is 3 years old and is for general MacPorts =20
functionality to support non-volatile default config files. Since =20
it's so old, I doubt anything is being done with it at the moment. =20=
...
...
I'm also not convinced any functionality needs to be added to =20
MacPorts base to support this.
The ticket mentions the need to have install/uninstall scripts =20
(i.e. not do it in activate/deactivate since that only works with =20
images), and that functionality is needed in order for the *.sample =20=
...
approach to be useful. It's another old ticket, though: http://=20
trac.macports.org/projects/macports/ticket/1068
I don't see how #1068 is related to Brian's request. Don't see why =20
install/uninstall scripts are necessary for anything.
...
For the configuration files, it would be a great benefit to the =20
packaging targets if there was a way to specify which ones are =20
conffiles. Probably something like "destroot.conffiles", similar to =20=
...
the existing "destroot.keepdirs". This would signify that the files =20=
...
in question are *not* to be overwritten...
Don't see why that's necessary. I think we're doing just fine with =20
individual portfiles installing their sample conf files with *.sample =20=

or *.default names.
...
So all these Tickets are related (#777 is another one), and the =20
implementation of these missing features should be taken to the =20
macports-dev list. So to me, it seems that at least two new pieces =20
of functionality are needed to be added to the MacPorts base in =20
order to support this ?
#777 seems to be a "nice to have" rather than a requirement:

http://trac.macports.org/projects/macports/ticket/777

"If a port installs a foo.cf.sample it might want to copy =20
foo.cf.sample to foo.cf iff foo.cf doesn't exist. This is probably =20
common enough that the port author shouldn't be forced to write an on-=20=

install foo.cf.sample [ ! -f foo.cf ] && cp foo.cf.sample foo.cf"

I don't understand what functionality requested by Brian cannot be =20
met by MacPorts 1.5.2 as it is today.

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Subject: su problem after bad meld install
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Hello,
=20=20
   I tried using macports to install meld (a visual diff tool).   The insta=
ll failed due to some dependency.   This turned out to be okay since I ende=
d up using a different tool than meld.   However it left my root account in=
 a bit of a quandry.   I ran
port install meld
directly from the root account since I was taking care of some other tasks =
also.   After the install failed, I exited from the account back to a norma=
l account and did some other work.    When I needed to su back, I noted:
1) the default shell for root had changed from bash to sh
2) every time I ran 'su', Little Snitch would pop up saying that su was try=
ing to contact my DNS server on port 53.   (I can allow or deny the request=
; it doesn't matter since su will still work correctly.)

   I changed the default shell back to bash, however I'm not sure of what t=
o do to fix the second problem or why su needs to contact the DNS server.  =
 Is there a quick fix for this?

thanks.

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Subject: Re: Overwriting config files
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Ryan Schmidt wrote:
...
...
The ticket mentions the need to have install/uninstall scripts (i.e. 
not do it in activate/deactivate since that only works with images), 
and that functionality is needed in order for the *.sample approach 
to be useful. It's another old ticket, though: 
http://trac.macports.org/projects/macports/ticket/1068
I don't see how #1068 is related to Brian's request. Don't see why 
install/uninstall scripts are necessary for anything.
Necessary and necessary... They are a convenience for users, so that 
you don't have to do anything extra in order to use the default 
configuration ?

Maybe this concrete configuration example from FreeBSD's Ports helps: 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/plist-config.html
...
...
For the configuration files, it would be a great benefit to the 
packaging targets if there was a way to specify which ones are 
conffiles. Probably something like "destroot.conffiles", similar to 
the existing "destroot.keepdirs". This would signify that the files 
in question are *not* to be overwritten...
Don't see why that's necessary. I think we're doing just fine with 
individual portfiles installing their sample conf files with *.sample 
or *.default names.
It is great when not installing (port install), such as when using the 
binary packages...

For instance both RPM and DEB have built-in facilities for handling 
configs when upgrading.
...
...
So all these Tickets are related (#777 is another one), and the 
implementation of these missing features should be taken to the 
macports-dev list. So to me, it seems that at least two new pieces of 
functionality are needed to be added to the MacPorts base in order to 
support this ?
#777 seems to be a "nice to have" rather than a requirement:
http://trac.macports.org/projects/macports/ticket/777
"If a port installs a foo.cf.sample it might want to copy 
foo.cf.sample to foo.cf iff foo.cf doesn't exist. This is probably 
common enough that the port author shouldn't be forced to write an 
on-install foo.cf.sample [ ! -f foo.cf ] && cp foo.cf.sample foo.cf"
I don't understand what functionality requested by Brian cannot be met 
by MacPorts 1.5.2 as it is today.
It's an enhancement alright, but I think that it would fit in great 
with the need of packages to signify which files are configuration ? In 
essence doing "port install/uninstall" and binary archives/packages 
have different needs, but I think it would be great to have features 
for both of them. And I do prefer simply listing the conffiles, rather 
than having to write any such install/uninstall scripts manually.

--anders

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Subject: Re: su problem after bad meld install
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On Aug 17, 2007, at 06:07, Jenn Mixxmann wrote:
...
I tried using macports to install meld (a visual diff tool).    
The install failed due to some dependency.
Not entirely surprising... when all is said and done, meld has well  
over a hundred dependencies. [1]
...
This turned out to be okay since I ended up using a different tool  
than meld.   However it left my root account in a bit of a  
quandry.   I ran
port install meld
directly from the root account since I was taking care of some  
other tasks also.   After the install failed, I exited from the  
account back to a normal account and did some other work.    When I  
needed to su back, I noted:
1) the default shell for root had changed from bash to sh
I'm not aware of any part of MacPorts that should be doing that. Can  
anyone else think of why that would have happened?

For the record, on Mac OS X, sh is bash so this should not have  
caused you any difficulty at all.
...
2) every time I ran 'su', Little Snitch would pop up saying that su  
was trying to contact my DNS server on port 53.   (I can allow or  
deny the request; it doesn't matter since su will still work  
correctly.)
I changed the default shell back to bash, however I'm not sure  
of what to do to fix the second problem or why su needs to contact  
the DNS server.   Is there a quick fix for this?
Also not sure what's going on there. I know that the heimdal port,  
for example, will install its own su, which may behave differently  
from the system's su. But heimdal is not a dependency of meld.

[1] It's a pretty impressive dependency graph, really:

http://www.ryandesign.com/tmp/meld.png

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Subject: Re: Error building openmotif
Message: 5

I am a newbie so some of this stuff I am not sure about.
I did a port sync but now I get a new error

sudo port install xpdf
Error: Unable to execute port: can't read "Id": no such variable

if I do a clean --all on xpdf will it also remove all the  
dependencies that have already been installed?
When you say hash, do you mean to execute
port checksum openmotif ?
I could not find a hash command in the port man.

On 17 Aug 2007, at 04:39 , Andrea D'Amore wrote:
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Il giorno 17/ago/07, alle ore 06:22, Samuel M. Smith ha scritto:
...
Error: Checksum (md5) mismatch for openmotif-2.3.0.tar.gz
Error: Target org.macports.checksum returned: Unable to verify  
file checksums
I then tried it again
port clean --all openmotif
and get the same error.
Any fix for this
It's an hash mismatch, you could try a "port sync" or simply go to  
distfiles dir, hash the file and put the new hash in "port edit  
openmotif" by yourself
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Subject: Re: Error building openmotif
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I tried it three times with the same result. I did a port clean --all  
openmotif before each try.
/opt/local/var/macports/distfiles/openmotif
openmotif-2.3.0.tar.gz

On 17 Aug 2007, at 01:11 , Ryan Schmidt wrote:
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On Aug 16, 2007, at 23:22, Samuel M. Smith wrote:
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Trying to install openmotif as part of xpdf get error
Fetching openmotif
--->  Attempting to fetch openmotif-2.3.0.tar.gz from ftp:// 
ftp.ics.com/openmotif/2.3/2.3.0/
--->  Verifying checksum(s) for openmotif
Error: Checksum (md5) mismatch for openmotif-2.3.0.tar.gz
Error: Target org.macports.checksum returned: Unable to verify  
file checksums
I then tried it again
port clean --all openmotif
and get the same error.
Any fix for this
That file is present on that server. Maybe there was a temporary  
error. Try again?
If it still doesn't work, try debug output, maybe that will help us  
see what's going on:
sudo port -dv fetch openmotif
Also, you could check to see what was actually downloaded. Look in / 
opt/local/var/macports/distfiles/openmotif
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Samuel M. Smith wrote:
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I am a newbie so some of this stuff I am not sure about.
I did a port sync but now I get a new error
sudo port install xpdf
Error: Unable to execute port: can't read "Id": no such variable
After a port sync I get this too. It looks like the problem is the
ghostscript port, but I don't know why. Maybe someone else can have a
look at this.
...
if I do a clean --all on xpdf will it also remove all the dependencies
that have already been installed?
No, this just removes all temporary data of the port and the source file.

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On Aug 17, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Samuel M. Smith wrote:
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I tried it three times with the same result. I did a port clean -- 
all openmotif before each try.
/opt/local/var/macports/distfiles/openmotif
openmotif-2.3.0.tar.gz
On 17 Aug 2007, at 01:11 , Ryan Schmidt wrote:
...
On Aug 16, 2007, at 23:22, Samuel M. Smith wrote:
...
Trying to install openmotif as part of xpdf get error
Fetching openmotif
--->  Attempting to fetch openmotif-2.3.0.tar.gz from ftp:// 
ftp.ics.com/openmotif/2.3/2.3.0/
--->  Verifying checksum(s) for openmotif
Error: Checksum (md5) mismatch for openmotif-2.3.0.tar.gz
Error: Target org.macports.checksum returned: Unable to verify  
file checksums
Checksum seems wrong in the Portfile, I get this on the manually  
downloaded file:

99d0ecb84d3504da421021a19ff70500

Portfile has this:

ef8f8ca6f6f80bfb96351f12b550b29b

Try editing the portfile to see if this works around the error.

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On Aug 17, 2007, at 09:55, Jeff Stubbs wrote:
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On Aug 17, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Samuel M. Smith wrote:
...
On 17 Aug 2007, at 01:11 , Ryan Schmidt wrote:
...
On Aug 16, 2007, at 23:22, Samuel M. Smith wrote:
...
Trying to install openmotif as part of xpdf get error
Fetching openmotif
--->  Attempting to fetch openmotif-2.3.0.tar.gz from ftp:// 
ftp.ics.com/openmotif/2.3/2.3.0/
--->  Verifying checksum(s) for openmotif
Error: Checksum (md5) mismatch for openmotif-2.3.0.tar.gz
Error: Target org.macports.checksum returned: Unable to verify  
file checksums
I tried it three times with the same result. I did a port clean -- 
all openmotif before each try.
/opt/local/var/macports/distfiles/openmotif
openmotif-2.3.0.tar.gz
Checksum seems wrong in the Portfile, I get this on the manually  
downloaded file:
99d0ecb84d3504da421021a19ff70500
Portfile has this:
ef8f8ca6f6f80bfb96351f12b550b29b
Try editing the portfile to see if this works around the error.
Ok, but *why* is it wrong. The checksum exists exactly so that we can  
detect when the distfile changes under our noses. Blindly changing  
the checksum to the file's current checksum completely defeats the  
purpose of having the check in the first place. Please read the FAQ:

http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/wiki/ 
FAQ#IgetError:checksummd5/sha1/rmd160mismatchforport.WhatcanIdoaboutit

On Aug 17, 2007, at 09:37, Simon Ruderich wrote:
...
...
I did a port sync but now I get a new error
sudo port install xpdf
Error: Unable to execute port: can't read "Id": no such variable
After a port sync I get this too. It looks like the problem is the
ghostscript port, but I don't know why. Maybe someone else can have a
look at this.
I believe this has been resolved already:

http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/changeset/28003

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