My guess is that it isn't. And I don't know why. Using ps gives me this. root 47 0.0 0.1 27884 816 ?? Ss 10:46PM 0:00.04/opt/local/bin/daemondo --label=mysql5 --start-cmd /opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.mysql5/mysql5.wrapper start ; --stop-cmd /opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.mysql5/mysql5.wrapper stop ; --restart-cmd /opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.mysql5/mysql5.wrapper restart ; --pid=/opt/local/var/mysql.pid running the script by hand gives me this. /opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.mysql5/mysql5.wrapper start Starting MySQL/opt/local/share/mysql5/mysql/mysql.server: line 159: kill: (580) - No such process the offending line 159? 152 wait_for_pid () { 153 i=0 154 while test $i -ne $service_startup_timeout ; do 155 sleep 1 156 case "$1" in 157 'created') 158 test -s $pid_file && i='' && break 159 kill -0 $2 || break # if the program goes away, stop waiting 160 ;; 161 'removed') and I get these messages now: Workaround Bonjour: Unknown error: 0 I don't think they are anything to do with mysql, perhaps apache2 since it doesn't do zeroconf stuff like the vendor-supplied httpd. -- Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/ <paulbeard@gmail.com/paulbeard@mac.com>