Greetings, [following up a 6 December 2006 thread] Nathan Stocks wrote:
Related to this issue, it was very non-intuitive to me that you had to click on a "Source Code" link to get to the .dmg downloads at all. It literally took me 10 minutes of poking around the site today to find the images, and most of that was simply figuring out that the download area was called "Source Code".
Would the powers-that-be object to changing that link to "Downloads" or something like that?
I got to the downloads via the wiki page at <http:// trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/wiki/InstallingMacPorts>. This says `Download the latest MacPorts .dmg disk image you find in the MacPorts download area', but what you find when you follow that link is a number of directories named `DarwinPorts', and a DarwinPorts .dmg. That's very confusing, whether or not you know MacPorts' history as DarwinPorts. It looks like you've been misdirected to a DarwinPorts legacy distribution (or something like that). So can I suggest (a) changing these build products so that they're called MacPorts, and (echoing Nathan) (b) having a 'Download' link directly on the macports.org front page. All the best, Norman -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Norman Gray / http://nxg.me.uk eurovotech.org / University of Leicester, UK
On Jan 7, 2007, at 10:42, Norman Gray wrote:
[following up a 6 December 2006 thread]
Nathan Stocks wrote:
Related to this issue, it was very non-intuitive to me that you had to click on a "Source Code" link to get to the .dmg downloads at all. It literally took me 10 minutes of poking around the site today to find the images, and most of that was simply figuring out that the download area was called "Source Code".
Would the powers-that-be object to changing that link to "Downloads" or something like that?
I got to the downloads via the wiki page at <http:// trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/wiki/InstallingMacPorts>. This says `Download the latest MacPorts .dmg disk image you find in the MacPorts download area', but what you find when you follow that link is a number of directories named `DarwinPorts', and a DarwinPorts .dmg. That's very confusing, whether or not you know MacPorts' history as DarwinPorts. It looks like you've been misdirected to a DarwinPorts legacy distribution (or something like that).
So can I suggest (a) changing these build products so that they're called MacPorts, and (echoing Nathan) (b) having a 'Download' link directly on the macports.org front page.
I would object to renaming the older builds. That would be changing history, and would be inaccurate. I would say that old versions of a project do not magically inherit the project's new name. Instead, I would be in favor of releasing a build of MacPorts that is branded as such. MacPorts 1.3.3.dmg, or MacPorts 1.4.dmg, or whatever. Until such a time as that is done, I have changed the wording on the aforementioned wiki page to read "Download the latest MacPorts (or DarwinPorts) .dmg disk image you find in the MacPorts download area."
Ryan, hello. On 2007 Jan 7 , at 19.10, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
I would object to renaming the older builds. That would be changing history, and would be inaccurate. I would say that old versions of a project do not magically inherit the project's new name.
Oh, I didn't intend to suggest renaming older ones, merely that new releases should be named consistently with the (now) project name.
Instead, I would be in favor of releasing a build of MacPorts that is branded as such. MacPorts 1.3.3.dmg, or MacPorts 1.4.dmg, or whatever.
Indeed.
I have changed the wording on the aforementioned wiki page
Looks good to me! All the best, Norman -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Norman Gray / http://nxg.me.uk eurovotech.org / University of Leicester, UK
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As a community service, I've posted a direct link to the latest DarwinPorts 1.3.1 universal-binary installer at my own website: http://www.codebykevin.com/portauthority.html For posterity and the mailing list archives, here's the direct link as well: http://svn.macports.org/repository/macports/downloads/DarwinPorts-1.3.1/Darw... Hope this is helpful. - -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFoUjaEsLm8HXyq4sRAqgVAJ9FvFzSMO8REsMc1UiaiqRlzi6aNwCeIf62 bqAn2RuMdrP9UydYJqverYM= =wqC0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ryan Schmidt wrote:
Instead, I would be in favor of releasing a build of MacPorts that is branded as such. MacPorts 1.3.3.dmg, or MacPorts 1.4.dmg, or whatever. Until such a time as that is done, I have changed the wording on the aforementioned wiki page to read "Download the latest MacPorts (or DarwinPorts) .dmg disk image you find in the MacPorts download area."
How hard would it be to add a "Download" link--say, for Panther and Tiger--to the very front of the MacPorts page, under "Getting Started," that includes the *direct* download links for the relevant .dmg's? (The one for Tiger, as well as the one for Panther.) I'm sure that's the first thing that most visitors to the website are looking for, and it's nearly impossible to find the downloads--the average newbie is going to steer clear of "Source Code." I'd also suggest considering renaming the "wiki" link to "User Help," "How-to," or something like that, since it's also a non-intuitive title. - -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFoUylEsLm8HXyq4sRAuc5AJ43DNvVotG7WwTyvCaWYXqLEPW7WACeKIc/ BAXjprTLoVfNx8cfoEXDKmg= =lqAw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I notice that when I run 'sudo port selfupdate', I get a message that 1.3.0, which I have installed, is the latest. Is there something else needed to migrate from darwinports to macports? Should I install the .dmg instead of using selfupdate? On Jan 7, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
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As a community service, I've posted a direct link to the latest DarwinPorts 1.3.1 universal-binary installer at my own website:
http://www.codebykevin.com/portauthority.html
For posterity and the mailing list archives, here's the direct link as well:
http://svn.macports.org/repository/macports/downloads/ DarwinPorts-1.3.1/DarwinPorts-1.3.1-10.4.dmg
Hope this is helpful.
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