Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0
From: Caio Chassot <lists@caiochassot.com> On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:
GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git, IMO) doesn't really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system will stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not distributed source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to MacRuby I tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write code with Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN
How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?
mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at apple, so I guess that feature is considered "public" now... http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor cheers Russell ----- Russell Muetzelfeldt <russm@slofith.org> Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.
If you’d prefer to work against the https://github.com/MacRuby/MacRuby mirror, then by all means please do. I'll take pull requests, and others will probably to, but it would be a good idea to send links to these requests in the IRC channel too, as I *think* the emails will go to a black hole. However, cleaning up the existing mess is the first priority, moving to another stack would only further delay this. So for now we are bound to Trac and SVN as the main stack. I too feel the pain… On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:06 PM, russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org> wrote:
From: Caio Chassot <lists@caiochassot.com> On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:
GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git, IMO) doesn't really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system will stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not distributed source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to MacRuby I tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write code with Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN
How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?
mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at apple, so I guess that feature is considered "public" now...
http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor
cheers
Russell
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Come on people svn isn't that bad, most of us used it for years and might still use it ;) However, if you are a git addict, you have 3 options: * use the github mirror (we'll do the svn patching ourselves) * use the macosforge git repo (same as github) * use gitsvn Also, while you are reflecting on your options, please pause a second in respect for people like me having to use perforce on a regular basis ;) Thank you all, your contribution will make the next release even better. - Matt Sent from my iPhone On Dec 1, 2010, at 6:42, Eloy Duran <eloy.de.enige@gmail.com> wrote:
If you’d prefer to work against the https://github.com/MacRuby/MacRuby mirror, then by all means please do. I'll take pull requests, and others will probably to, but it would be a good idea to send links to these requests in the IRC channel too, as I *think* the emails will go to a black hole.
However, cleaning up the existing mess is the first priority, moving to another stack would only further delay this. So for now we are bound to Trac and SVN as the main stack. I too feel the pain…
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:06 PM, russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org> wrote:
From: Caio Chassot <lists@caiochassot.com> On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:
GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git, IMO) doesn't really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system will stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not distributed source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to MacRuby I tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write code with Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN
How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?
mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at apple, so I guess that feature is considered "public" now...
http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor
cheers
Russell
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The voice of reason - thanks Matt. Matt On Dec 1, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Matt Aimonetti wrote:
Come on people svn isn't that bad, most of us used it for years and might still use it ;) However, if you are a git addict, you have 3 options: * use the github mirror (we'll do the svn patching ourselves) * use the macosforge git repo (same as github) * use gitsvn
Also, while you are reflecting on your options, please pause a second in respect for people like me having to use perforce on a regular basis ;)
Thank you all, your contribution will make the next release even better.
- Matt
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 1, 2010, at 6:42, Eloy Duran <eloy.de.enige@gmail.com> wrote:
If you’d prefer to work against the https://github.com/MacRuby/MacRuby mirror, then by all means please do. I'll take pull requests, and others will probably to, but it would be a good idea to send links to these requests in the IRC channel too, as I *think* the emails will go to a black hole.
However, cleaning up the existing mess is the first priority, moving to another stack would only further delay this. So for now we are bound to Trac and SVN as the main stack. I too feel the pain…
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:06 PM, russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org> wrote:
From: Caio Chassot <lists@caiochassot.com> On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:
GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git, IMO) doesn't really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system will stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not distributed source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to MacRuby I tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write code with Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN
How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?
mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at apple, so I guess that feature is considered "public" now...
http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor
cheers
Russell
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On Dec 1, 2010, at 07:29 , Matt Aimonetti wrote:
Come on people svn isn't that bad, most of us used it for years and might still use it ;) However, if you are a git addict, you have 3 options: * use the github mirror (we'll do the svn patching ourselves) * use the macosforge git repo (same as github) * use gitsvn
Also, while you are reflecting on your options, please pause a second in respect for people like me having to use perforce on a regular basis ;)
Thank you all, your contribution will make the next release even better.
Hey matt... we talked at rubyconf about getting my test stuff bundled in macruby. What do you need from me?
I talked with Laurent and he had the same concerns you raised, we need more feedback from users to make sure the tools are what people need and they are in use. Who's using minitest addons? What do you guys think, can we get a community feedback please? Thanks, - Matt On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> wrote:
On Dec 1, 2010, at 07:29 , Matt Aimonetti wrote:
Come on people svn isn't that bad, most of us used it for years and might still use it ;) However, if you are a git addict, you have 3 options: * use the github mirror (we'll do the svn patching ourselves) * use the macosforge git repo (same as github) * use gitsvn
Also, while you are reflecting on your options, please pause a second in respect for people like me having to use perforce on a regular basis ;)
Thank you all, your contribution will make the next release even better.
Hey matt... we talked at rubyconf about getting my test stuff bundled in macruby. What do you need from me?
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Can you download XC4 without paying 99$ ?My none paid account allows me only to download XC3 :-) --- russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org> schrieb am Mi, 1.12.2010: Von: russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org Datum: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember, 2010 14:06 Uhr
From: Caio Chassot <lists@caiochassot.com> On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:
GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git, IMO) doesn't really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system will stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not distributed source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to MacRuby I tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write code with Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN
How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?
mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at apple, so I guess that feature is considered "public" now... http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor cheers Russell ----- Russell Muetzelfeldt <russm@slofith.org> Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur. _______________________________________________ MacRuby-devel mailing list MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel
You need a paid developer subscription. Travis On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:03 AM, denny trebbin <dra_k_oon@yahoo.com> wrote:
Can you download XC4 without paying 99$ ? My none paid account allows me only to download XC3 :-)
--- russell muetzelfeldt *<russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org>* schrieb am *Mi, 1.12.2010:
Von: russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org>
Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org Datum: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember, 2010 14:06 Uhr
From: Caio Chassot <lists@caiochassot.com<http://mc/compose?to=lists@caiochassot.com>
On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:
GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git,
IMO) doesn't really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system will stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not distributed source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to MacRuby I tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write code with Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN
How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?
mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at apple, so I guess that feature is considered "public" now...
http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor
cheers
Russell
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Hehe, don't make me laugh again that way.I am neither and iOS developer nor an Mac developer. I love to use a Mac but for developing platform independent stuff. Apple changed there support for Java so I made a move and learned Ruby. I though MacRuby is just an MRI alternative with the nice possibility to use OSX features. Like it is possible with the dying Apple JDK. Sorry if I expected to much. --- Travis Kay <protozen@gmail.com> schrieb am Fr, 3.12.2010: Von: Travis Kay <protozen@gmail.com> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: "MacRuby development discussions." <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org> Datum: Freitag, 3. Dezember, 2010 16:24 Uhr You need a paid developer subscription. Travis On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:03 AM, denny trebbin <dra_k_oon@yahoo.com> wrote: Can you download XC4 without paying 99$ ?My none paid account allows me only to download XC3 :-) --- russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org> schrieb am Mi, 1.12.2010: Von: russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org Datum: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember, 2010 14:06 Uhr
From: Caio Chassot <lists@caiochassot.com> On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:
GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git, IMO) doesn't
really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system will stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not distributed source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to MacRuby I tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write code with Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN
How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?
mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at apple, so I guess that feature is considered "public" now... http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor cheers Russell ----- Russell Muetzelfeldt <russm@slofith.org> Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur. _______________________________________________ MacRuby-devel mailing list MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel _______________________________________________ MacRuby-devel mailing list MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- _______________________________________________ MacRuby-devel mailing list MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel
The $99 subscription gets you a version 3 of Xcode that supports the new OS X app store. Xcode 4 is a beta version with mainly iPhone oriented features. - Matt On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:55 AM, denny trebbin <dra_k_oon@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hehe, don't make me laugh again that way. I am neither and iOS developer nor an Mac developer. I love to use a Mac but for developing platform independent stuff. Apple changed there support for Java so I made a move and learned Ruby. I though MacRuby is just an MRI alternative with the nice possibility to use OSX features. Like it is possible with the dying Apple JDK. Sorry if I expected to much.
--- Travis Kay *<protozen@gmail.com>* schrieb am *Fr, 3.12.2010:
Von: Travis Kay <protozen@gmail.com>
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Datum: Freitag, 3. Dezember, 2010 16:24 Uhr
You need a paid developer subscription.
Travis
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:03 AM, denny trebbin <dra_k_oon@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=dra_k_oon@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Can you download XC4 without paying 99$ ? My none paid account allows me only to download XC3 :-)
--- russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org<http://mc/compose?to=russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org>
schrieb am Mi, 1.12.2010:
Von: russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org<http://mc/compose?to=russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org>
Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org<http://mc/compose?to=macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org> Datum: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember, 2010 14:06 Uhr
From: Caio Chassot <lists@caiochassot.com<http://mc/compose?to=lists@caiochassot.com>
On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:
GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git,
IMO) doesn't really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system will stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not distributed source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to MacRuby I tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write code with Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN
How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?
mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at apple, so I guess that feature is considered "public" now...
http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor
cheers
Russell
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You don't need XC3 or XC4 to develop MacRuby - it can all be done with any editor and the command line. Using rake files makes it very easy. Look in the MacRuby sample code for Sketch and you will find an example rake file to do everything XC would do for you wrt MacRuby. Dave. On 3 Dec 2010, at 16:55, denny trebbin wrote:
Hehe, don't make me laugh again that way. I am neither and iOS developer nor an Mac developer. I love to use a Mac but for developing platform independent stuff. Apple changed there support for Java so I made a move and learned Ruby. I though MacRuby is just an MRI alternative with the nice possibility to use OSX features. Like it is possible with the dying Apple JDK. Sorry if I expected to much.
--- Travis Kay <protozen@gmail.com> schrieb am Fr, 3.12.2010:
Von: Travis Kay <protozen@gmail.com> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: "MacRuby development discussions." <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org> Datum: Freitag, 3. Dezember, 2010 16:24 Uhr
You need a paid developer subscription.
Travis
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:03 AM, denny trebbin <dra_k_oon@yahoo.com> wrote: Can you download XC4 without paying 99$ ? My none paid account allows me only to download XC3 :-)
--- russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org> schrieb am Mi, 1.12.2010:
Von: russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org>
Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org Datum: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember, 2010 14:06 Uhr
From: Caio Chassot <lists@caiochassot.com> On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:
GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git, IMO) doesn't really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system will stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not distributed source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to MacRuby I tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write code with Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN
How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?
mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at apple, so I guess that feature is considered "public" now...
http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor
cheers
Russell
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Hi Denny, I don't understand how the thread ended up like this, but you do not need to pay anything to develop with MacRuby. All you need is a copy of Xcode 3, which comes free with Mac OS X. If you don't have your DVDs handy, you can download it for free on developer.apple.com. Once Xcode 3 is installed in your Mac, just install MacRuby and you should be done. Xcode 4 is a different version, it's still in beta so we cannot discuss it here until it's fully released. It is also possible to develop with MacRuby without Xcode at all, as Dave mentioned. Laurent On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:55 AM, denny trebbin wrote:
Hehe, don't make me laugh again that way. I am neither and iOS developer nor an Mac developer. I love to use a Mac but for developing platform independent stuff. Apple changed there support for Java so I made a move and learned Ruby. I though MacRuby is just an MRI alternative with the nice possibility to use OSX features. Like it is possible with the dying Apple JDK. Sorry if I expected to much.
--- Travis Kay <protozen@gmail.com> schrieb am Fr, 3.12.2010:
Von: Travis Kay <protozen@gmail.com> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: "MacRuby development discussions." <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org> Datum: Freitag, 3. Dezember, 2010 16:24 Uhr
You need a paid developer subscription.
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On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:03 AM, denny trebbin <dra_k_oon@yahoo.com> wrote: Can you download XC4 without paying 99$ ? My none paid account allows me only to download XC3 :-)
--- russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org> schrieb am Mi, 1.12.2010:
Von: russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org>
Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org Datum: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember, 2010 14:06 Uhr
From: Caio Chassot <lists@caiochassot.com> On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:
GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git, IMO) doesn't really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system will stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not distributed source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to MacRuby I tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write code with Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN
How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?
mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at apple, so I guess that feature is considered "public" now...
http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor
cheers
Russell
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Hi Laurent, sorry for the way it goes in this thread, but everything started with question "can we move to a different VCS?" (It was not my question). I said other then SVN or CVS is not possible if mostly here all are stuck with/to Xcode. Then I got a stupid answer to use XC4 then. But which is not available for normal guys.Now anybody tries to be smarter and tell me "you don't need ...", "you can subscribe ...", "don't show me your tools ..." and many more of that none question answering stuff. All what I wanted is to here how can we go to a modern VCS if the most people here use Xcode. All what I receive (after I told what I think about Xcode and none paying anything for a developer subscription) is something like "nil". Maybe we should rewind everything before the question about another VCS started and then I come back and try see if the world could be bigger then this here actually looks like. Cheers PS:What do I need to do to get a Email moderated that was send some weeks ago to this mailing list? I received an auto generated answer that told me my Email is to huge and one of the moderator needs to do something with it. It was about an MacRuby crash with crash log and some screen shots. --- Laurent Sansonetti <lsansonetti@apple.com> schrieb am Fr, 3.12.2010: Von: Laurent Sansonetti <lsansonetti@apple.com> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: "MacRuby development discussions." <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org> Datum: Freitag, 3. Dezember, 2010 22:23 Uhr Hi Denny, I don't understand how the thread ended up like this, but you do not need to pay anything to develop with MacRuby. All you need is a copy of Xcode 3, which comes free with Mac OS X. If you don't have your DVDs handy, you can download it for free on developer.apple.com. Once Xcode 3 is installed in your Mac, just install MacRuby and you should be done. Xcode 4 is a different version, it's still in beta so we cannot discuss it here until it's fully released. It is also possible to develop with MacRuby without Xcode at all, as Dave mentioned. Laurent On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:55 AM, denny trebbin wrote: Hehe, don't make me laugh again that way.I am neither and iOS developer nor an Mac developer. I love to use a Mac but for developing platform independent stuff. Apple changed there support for Java so I made a move and learned Ruby. I though MacRuby is just an MRI alternative with the nice possibility to use OSX features. Like it is possible with the dying Apple JDK. Sorry if I expected to much. --- Travis Kay <protozen@gmail.com> schrieb am Fr, 3.12.2010: Von: Travis Kay <protozen@gmail.com> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: "MacRuby development discussions." <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org> Datum: Freitag, 3. Dezember, 2010 16:24 Uhr You need a paid developer subscription. Travis On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:03 AM, denny trebbin <dra_k_oon@yahoo.com> wrote: Can you download XC4 without paying 99$ ?My none paid account allows me only to download XC3 :-) --- russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org> schrieb am Mi, 1.12.2010: Von: russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org Datum: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember, 2010 14:06 Uhr
From: Caio Chassot <lists@caiochassot.com> On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:
GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git, IMO) doesn't
really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system will stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not distributed source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to MacRuby I tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write code with Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN
How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?
mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at apple, so I guess that feature is considered "public" now... http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor cheers Russell ----- Russell Muetzelfeldt <russm@slofith.org> Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur. _______________________________________________ MacRuby-devel mailing list MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel _______________________________________________ MacRuby-devel mailing list MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- _______________________________________________ MacRuby-devel mailing list MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel _______________________________________________ MacRuby-devel mailing list MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- _______________________________________________ MacRuby-devel mailing list MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel
It's a mailing list. Don't send attachments, please. File a ticket or put them online and link to them instead. -Matt On Saturday, December 4, 2010, denny trebbin <dra_k_oon@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Laurent, sorry for the way it goes in this thread, but everything started with question "can we move to a different VCS?" (It was not my question). I said other then SVN or CVS is not possible if mostly here all are stuck with/to Xcode. Then I got a stupid answer to use XC4 then. But which is not available for normal guys.Now anybody tries to be smarter and tell me "you don't need ...", "you can subscribe ...", "don't show me your tools ..." and many more of that none question answering stuff. All what I wanted is to here how can we go to a modern VCS if the most people here use Xcode. All what I receive (after I told what I think about Xcode and none paying anything for a developer subscription) is something like "nil". Maybe we should rewind everything before the question about another VCS started and then I come back and try see if the world could be bigger then this here actually looks like. Cheers PS:What do I need to do to get a Email moderated that was send some weeks ago to this mailing list? I received an auto generated answer that told me my Email is to huge and one of the moderator needs to do something with it. It was about an MacRuby crash with crash log and some screen shots. --- Laurent Sansonetti <lsansonetti@apple.com> schrieb am Fr, 3.12.2010:
Von: Laurent Sansonetti <lsansonetti@apple.com> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: "MacRuby development discussions." <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org> Datum: Freitag, 3. Dezember, 2010 22:23 Uhr
Hi Denny, I don't understand how the thread ended up like this, but you do not need to pay anything to develop with MacRuby. All you need is a copy of Xcode 3, which comes free with Mac OS X. If you don't have your DVDs handy, you can download it for free on developer.apple.com. Once Xcode 3 is installed in your Mac, just install MacRuby and you should be done. Xcode 4 is a different version, it's still in beta so we cannot discuss it here until it's fully released. It is also possible to develop with MacRuby without Xcode at all, as Dave mentioned. Laurent On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:55 AM, denny trebbin wrote: Hehe, don't make me laugh again that way.I am neither and iOS developer nor an Mac developer. I love to use a Mac but for developing platform independent stuff. Apple changed there support for Java so I made a move and learned Ruby. I though MacRuby is just an MRI alternative with the nice possibility to use OSX features. Like it is possible with the dying Apple JDK. Sorry if I expected to much. --- Travis Kay <protozen@gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=protozen@gmail.com>> schrieb am Fr, 3.12.2010:
Von: Travis Kay <protozen@gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=protozen@gmail.com>> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: "MacRuby development discussions." <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org> Datum: Freitag, 3. Dezember, 2010 16:24 Uhr
You need a paid developer subscription.
Travis
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:03 AM, denny trebbin <dra_k_oon@yahoo.com> wrote:
Can you download XC4 without paying 99$ ?My none paid account allows me only to download XC3 :-) --- russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org> schrieb am Mi, 1.12.2010:
Von: russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org>
Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org Datum: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember, 2010 14:06 Uhr
From: Caio Chassot <lists@caiochassot.com <http://mc/compose?to=lists@caiochassot.com>> On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:
GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git, IMO) doesn't
really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system will stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not distributed source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to MacRuby I tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write code with Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN
How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?
mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at apple, so I guess that feature is considered "public" now...
http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor
cheers
Russell
----- Russell Muetzelfeldt <russm@slofith.org <http://mc/compose?to=russm@slofith.org>> Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.
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What Matt said, but also in the event you have trouble with the mailing list or any other infrastructure, email admin@macosforge.org, and if that doesn't work, email me. -Bill On Dec 4, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Matthew Ratzloff wrote:
It's a mailing list. Don't send attachments, please. File a ticket or put them online and link to them instead.
-Matt
On Saturday, December 4, 2010, denny trebbin <dra_k_oon@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Laurent, sorry for the way it goes in this thread, but everything started with question "can we move to a different VCS?" (It was not my question). I said other then SVN or CVS is not possible if mostly here all are stuck with/to Xcode. Then I got a stupid answer to use XC4 then. But which is not available for normal guys.Now anybody tries to be smarter and tell me "you don't need ...", "you can subscribe ...", "don't show me your tools ..." and many more of that none question answering stuff. All what I wanted is to here how can we go to a modern VCS if the most people here use Xcode. All what I receive (after I told what I think about Xcode and none paying anything for a developer subscription) is something like "nil". Maybe we should rewind everything before the question about another VCS started and then I come back and try see if the world could be bigger then this here actually looks like. Cheers PS:What do I need to do to get a Email moderated that was send some weeks ago to this mailing list? I received an auto generated answer that told me my Email is to huge and one of the moderator needs to do something with it. It was about an MacRuby crash with crash log and some screen shots. --- Laurent Sansonetti <lsansonetti@apple.com> schrieb am Fr, 3.12.2010:
Von: Laurent Sansonetti <lsansonetti@apple.com> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: "MacRuby development discussions." <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org> Datum: Freitag, 3. Dezember, 2010 22:23 Uhr
Hi Denny, I don't understand how the thread ended up like this, but you do not need to pay anything to develop with MacRuby. All you need is a copy of Xcode 3, which comes free with Mac OS X. If you don't have your DVDs handy, you can download it for free on developer.apple.com. Once Xcode 3 is installed in your Mac, just install MacRuby and you should be done. Xcode 4 is a different version, it's still in beta so we cannot discuss it here until it's fully released. It is also possible to develop with MacRuby without Xcode at all, as Dave mentioned. Laurent On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:55 AM, denny trebbin wrote: Hehe, don't make me laugh again that way.I am neither and iOS developer nor an Mac developer. I love to use a Mac but for developing platform independent stuff. Apple changed there support for Java so I made a move and learned Ruby. I though MacRuby is just an MRI alternative with the nice possibility to use OSX features. Like it is possible with the dying Apple JDK. Sorry if I expected to much. --- Travis Kay <protozen@gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=protozen@gmail.com>> schrieb am Fr, 3.12.2010:
Von: Travis Kay <protozen@gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=protozen@gmail.com>> Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: "MacRuby development discussions." <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org> Datum: Freitag, 3. Dezember, 2010 16:24 Uhr
You need a paid developer subscription.
Travis
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:03 AM, denny trebbin <dra_k_oon@yahoo.com> wrote:
Can you download XC4 without paying 99$ ?My none paid account allows me only to download XC3 :-) --- russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org> schrieb am Mi, 1.12.2010:
Von: russell muetzelfeldt <russm-macruby-devel@slofith.org>
Betreff: Re: [MacRuby-devel] converging for 1.0 An: macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org Datum: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember, 2010 14:06 Uhr
From: Caio Chassot <lists@caiochassot.com <http://mc/compose?to=lists@caiochassot.com>> On 2010-12-01, at 07:45 , denny trebbin wrote:
GitHub or BitBucket (I love Mercurial, its pretty much easier then Git, IMO) doesn't
really matter but I think a switch to almost newer source control system will stop by the use of Xcode. Because Xcode is crappy and supports not distributed source control system.I switched from Java to Ruby and thanks to MacRuby I tried Xcode but hell I can understand how people are able to write code with Xcode ;-)Anyways anything is better then SVN
How much can we talk about Xcode 4 wrt SCM integration?
mention of the git support in Xcode 4 is on a no login required page at apple, so I guess that feature is considered "public" now...
http://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html#version-editor
cheers
Russell
----- Russell Muetzelfeldt <russm@slofith.org <http://mc/compose?to=russm@slofith.org>> Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.
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participants (11)
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Dave Baldwin
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denny trebbin
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Eloy Duran
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Laurent Sansonetti
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Matt Aimonetti
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Matt Massicotte
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Matthew Ratzloff
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russell muetzelfeldt
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Ryan Davis
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Travis Kay
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William Siegrist