Hi all, I was trying to add drag & drop capabilities to a hotcocoa program and stumbled into a problem that really puzzles me: a macruby program can freeze your mac ! I uploaded the buggy fragment here: https://gist.github.com/893300 Don't run it unless you are prepared to reboot your machine the hard way, don't even "Force quit" works. In the instructions I say to launch it twice, but every drag & drop with any app after the crash freezes the app. I'm using macruby 0.9, tried 0.10 but hotcocoa does not work with it (but this is another story !) Hope someone can tell me if I did something wrong or found a bug somewhere. Enzp
Enzo, It might be a translation issue, but I wouldn't call that a virus (it doesn't replicate, it is just something that freezes your computer). I wouldn't call it "Virus" in the gist either, if I were you. If it is a bug in HotCocoa, than it may be a bug (or at least undesired functionality if it freezes your Mac) in MacRuby or OS X, so you might want to dig deeper and provide more info on version (and where you got it, since it is in various places in GitHub) of HotCocoa. Thanks! Gary On 3/29/11 5:27 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
Hi all, I was trying to add drag & drop capabilities to a hotcocoa program and stumbled into a problem that really puzzles me: a macruby program can freeze your mac !
I uploaded the buggy fragment here: https://gist.github.com/893300
Don't run it unless you are prepared to reboot your machine the hard way, don't even "Force quit" works. In the instructions I say to launch it twice, but every drag & drop with any app after the crash freezes the app.
I'm using macruby 0.9, tried 0.10 but hotcocoa does not work with it (but this is another story !)
Hope someone can tell me if I did something wrong or found a bug somewhere.
Enzp
Gary, "Virus" was joke of course, however I changed the name on gist. I doubt it is a hotcocoa issue, but as soon as I have some time will try to replicate it with an IB version. What do you mean by "where you got it" ? The code is mine, I was trying to do something along the lines of this http://www.nongnu.org/gstutorial/en/ch13s04.html. By the way, do you know where can I find a working drag&drop macruby example ? Enzo On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Gary Weaver <gary.weaver@duke.edu> wrote:
Enzo,
It might be a translation issue, but I wouldn't call that a virus (it doesn't replicate, it is just something that freezes your computer). I wouldn't call it "Virus" in the gist either, if I were you.
If it is a bug in HotCocoa, than it may be a bug (or at least undesired functionality if it freezes your Mac) in MacRuby or OS X, so you might want to dig deeper and provide more info on version (and where you got it, since it is in various places in GitHub) of HotCocoa.
Thanks! Gary
On 3/29/11 5:27 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
Hi all, I was trying to add drag & drop capabilities to a hotcocoa program and stumbled into a problem that really puzzles me: a macruby program can freeze your mac !
I uploaded the buggy fragment here: https://gist.github.com/893300
Don't run it unless you are prepared to reboot your machine the hard way, don't even "Force quit" works. In the instructions I say to launch it twice, but every drag & drop with any app after the crash freezes the app.
I'm using macruby 0.9, tried 0.10 but hotcocoa does not work with it (but this is another story !)
Hope someone can tell me if I did something wrong or found a bug somewhere.
Enzp
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Enzo, What I meant is that there are various versions of HotCocoa on GitHub. You might want to try someone's repo that was updated more recently. The "official"/original version ( https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa ) is probably the one you are using, but you can find a more recent one with patches, etc. by looking at its network in GitHub: https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa/network for example, some more recent versions at time of writing are: https://github.com/gmanley/hotcocoa https://github.com/jamis/hotcocoa Gary On 3/30/11 5:32 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
Gary, "Virus" was joke of course, however I changed the name on gist. I doubt it is a hotcocoa issue, but as soon as I have some time will try to replicate it with an IB version.
What do you mean by "where you got it" ? The code is mine, I was trying to do something along the lines of this http://www.nongnu.org/gstutorial/en/ch13s04.html.
By the way, do you know where can I find a working drag&drop macruby example ?
Enzo
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Gary Weaver <gary.weaver@duke.edu <mailto:gary.weaver@duke.edu>> wrote:
Enzo,
It might be a translation issue, but I wouldn't call that a virus (it doesn't replicate, it is just something that freezes your computer). I wouldn't call it "Virus" in the gist either, if I were you.
If it is a bug in HotCocoa, than it may be a bug (or at least undesired functionality if it freezes your Mac) in MacRuby or OS X, so you might want to dig deeper and provide more info on version (and where you got it, since it is in various places in GitHub) of HotCocoa.
Thanks! Gary
On 3/29/11 5:27 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
Hi all, I was trying to add drag & drop capabilities to a hotcocoa program and stumbled into a problem that really puzzles me: a macruby program can freeze your mac !
I uploaded the buggy fragment here: https://gist.github.com/893300
Don't run it unless you are prepared to reboot your machine the hard way, don't even "Force quit" works. In the instructions I say to launch it twice, but every drag & drop with any app after the crash freezes the app.
I'm using macruby 0.9, tried 0.10 but hotcocoa does not work with it (but this is another story !)
Hope someone can tell me if I did something wrong or found a bug somewhere.
Enzp
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Ok, thanks a lot, Gary: I will try them. So no "official" repository is going to be put up ? Enzo On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Gary Weaver <gary.weaver@duke.edu> wrote:
Enzo,
What I meant is that there are various versions of HotCocoa on GitHub. You might want to try someone's repo that was updated more recently. The "official"/original version ( https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa ) is probably the one you are using, but you can find a more recent one with patches, etc. by looking at its network in GitHub: https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa/network
for example, some more recent versions at time of writing are: https://github.com/gmanley/hotcocoa https://github.com/jamis/hotcocoa
Gary
On 3/30/11 5:32 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
Gary, "Virus" was joke of course, however I changed the name on gist. I doubt it is a hotcocoa issue, but as soon as I have some time will try to replicate it with an IB version.
What do you mean by "where you got it" ? The code is mine, I was trying to do something along the lines of this http://www.nongnu.org/gstutorial/en/ch13s04.html.
By the way, do you know where can I find a working drag&drop macruby example ?
Enzo
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Gary Weaver <gary.weaver@duke.edu>wrote:
Enzo,
It might be a translation issue, but I wouldn't call that a virus (it doesn't replicate, it is just something that freezes your computer). I wouldn't call it "Virus" in the gist either, if I were you.
If it is a bug in HotCocoa, than it may be a bug (or at least undesired functionality if it freezes your Mac) in MacRuby or OS X, so you might want to dig deeper and provide more info on version (and where you got it, since it is in various places in GitHub) of HotCocoa.
Thanks! Gary
On 3/29/11 5:27 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
Hi all, I was trying to add drag & drop capabilities to a hotcocoa program and stumbled into a problem that really puzzles me: a macruby program can freeze your mac !
I uploaded the buggy fragment here: https://gist.github.com/893300
Don't run it unless you are prepared to reboot your machine the hard way, don't even "Force quit" works. In the instructions I say to launch it twice, but every drag & drop with any app after the crash freezes the app.
I'm using macruby 0.9, tried 0.10 but hotcocoa does not work with it (but this is another story !)
Hope someone can tell me if I did something wrong or found a bug somewhere.
Enzp
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I'm not the HotCocoa authority, but in http://www.macruby.org/hotcocoa/getting_started.html it states: "HotCocoa is part of the MacRuby <http://www.macruby.org> distribution which will ship with figure versions of OS X." (I think it is supposed to be "future" not "figure", btw.) But, according the Rich's readme: https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa "HotCocoa used to be included in MacRuby but is now managed as a separate gem. This will allow HotCocoa to accept contributions and evolve more quickly." The link on that page to example source for MacRuby is broken btw: http://svn.macosforge.org/repository/ruby/MacRuby/trunk/sample-macruby The wiki on HotCocoa which is the most up-to-date source for info, I think, is here: http://www.macruby.org/trac/wiki/HotCocoa And the versions listed on http://www.macruby.org/trac/wiki/HotCocoaResources are currently: * http://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa/network (Network Graph) * http://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa (Rich Kilmer) * http://github.com/dj2/hotcocoa/ (Dan Sinclair) Somehow, I thought the official version from somewhere on the site (maybe not the wiki) used to point to: https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa but I could only find those links in my recent perusal of the macruby.org and macruby wiki. Maybe it would be good if someone eventually created an official hotcocoa/hotcocoa repo in GitHub (especially now that macruby/macruby is there). Also, there are still references to HotCocoa in MacRuby (latest from GitHub): MacRuby (master)]$ grep -r HotCocoa * instruby.rb: when 'hotcocoa', 'rb_nibtool' misc/release/MacRuby.pmdoc/01macruby-contents.xml: .... rakelib/builder/options.rb: $stderr.puts "The 'build_as_embeddable' build configuration has been removed because it is no longer necessary. To package a full version of MacRuby inside your application, please use `macrake deploy` for HotCocoa apps and the `Embed MacRuby` target for Xcode apps." sample-macruby/About MacRuby Examples.rtf:\b HotCocoa sample-macruby/About MacRuby Examples.rtf:\b0 directory contains examples for the MacRuby's HotCocoa\ sample-macruby/Scripts/growl/hotcocoa_growl.rb:require 'hotcocoa' sample-macruby/Scripts/growl/hotcocoa_growl.rb: include HotCocoa sample-macruby/Scripts/growl/hotcocoa_sample.rb:require 'hotcocoa_growl' test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/mapper_test.rb:require 'hotcocoa' test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/mapper_test.rb: include HotCocoa::Mappings test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/mappings_test.rb:require 'hotcocoa' test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/mappings_test.rb: include HotCocoa test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/object_ext_test.rb:require 'hotcocoa' test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/object_ext_test.rb: assert_equal HotCocoa, Object.full_const_get("HotCocoa") test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/object_ext_test.rb: assert_equal HotCocoa::Mappings, Object.full_const_get("HotCocoa::Mappings") test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/plist_test.rb:require 'hotcocoa' test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/plist_test.rb: include HotCocoa On 3/31/11 12:59 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
Ok, thanks a lot, Gary: I will try them.
So no "official" repository is going to be put up ?
Enzo
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Gary Weaver <gary.weaver@duke.edu <mailto:gary.weaver@duke.edu>> wrote:
Enzo,
What I meant is that there are various versions of HotCocoa on GitHub. You might want to try someone's repo that was updated more recently. The "official"/original version ( https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa ) is probably the one you are using, but you can find a more recent one with patches, etc. by looking at its network in GitHub: https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa/network
for example, some more recent versions at time of writing are: https://github.com/gmanley/hotcocoa https://github.com/jamis/hotcocoa
Gary
On 3/30/11 5:32 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
Gary, "Virus" was joke of course, however I changed the name on gist. I doubt it is a hotcocoa issue, but as soon as I have some time will try to replicate it with an IB version.
What do you mean by "where you got it" ? The code is mine, I was trying to do something along the lines of this http://www.nongnu.org/gstutorial/en/ch13s04.html.
By the way, do you know where can I find a working drag&drop macruby example ?
Enzo
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Gary Weaver <gary.weaver@duke.edu <mailto:gary.weaver@duke.edu>> wrote:
Enzo,
It might be a translation issue, but I wouldn't call that a virus (it doesn't replicate, it is just something that freezes your computer). I wouldn't call it "Virus" in the gist either, if I were you.
If it is a bug in HotCocoa, than it may be a bug (or at least undesired functionality if it freezes your Mac) in MacRuby or OS X, so you might want to dig deeper and provide more info on version (and where you got it, since it is in various places in GitHub) of HotCocoa.
Thanks! Gary
On 3/29/11 5:27 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
Hi all, I was trying to add drag & drop capabilities to a hotcocoa program and stumbled into a problem that really puzzles me: a macruby program can freeze your mac !
I uploaded the buggy fragment here: https://gist.github.com/893300
Don't run it unless you are prepared to reboot your machine the hard way, don't even "Force quit" works. In the instructions I say to launch it twice, but every drag & drop with any app after the crash freezes the app.
I'm using macruby 0.9, tried 0.10 but hotcocoa does not work with it (but this is another story !)
Hope someone can tell me if I did something wrong or found a bug somewhere.
Enzp
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HotCocoa development has been happening independently of MacRuby for a while now. Any remaining references in the code or on the website are bugs (or, in the case of the website, out-of-date pages). It would be nice to clean up some of these references, but that's a rather low-priority task at the moment. (Of course, pull requests are more than welcome ;-). On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gary Weaver <gary.weaver@duke.edu> wrote:
I'm not the HotCocoa authority, but in http://www.macruby.org/hotcocoa/getting_started.html it states:
"HotCocoa is part of the MacRuby <http://www.macruby.org> distribution which will ship with figure versions of OS X."
(I think it is supposed to be "future" not "figure", btw.)
But, according the Rich's readme:
https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa
"HotCocoa used to be included in MacRuby but is now managed as a separate gem. This will allow HotCocoa to accept contributions and evolve more quickly."
The link on that page to example source for MacRuby is broken btw: http://svn.macosforge.org/repository/ruby/MacRuby/trunk/sample-macruby
The wiki on HotCocoa which is the most up-to-date source for info, I think, is here: http://www.macruby.org/trac/wiki/HotCocoa
And the versions listed on http://www.macruby.org/trac/wiki/HotCocoaResources are currently:
- http://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa/network<http://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa/network>(Network Graph)
- http://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa<http://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa>(Rich Kilmer)
- http://github.com/dj2/hotcocoa/ <http://github.com/dj2/hotcocoa/>(Dan Sinclair)
Somehow, I thought the official version from somewhere on the site (maybe not the wiki) used to point to: https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa but I could only find those links in my recent perusal of the macruby.org and macruby wiki.
Maybe it would be good if someone eventually created an official hotcocoa/hotcocoa repo in GitHub (especially now that macruby/macruby is there).
Also, there are still references to HotCocoa in MacRuby (latest from GitHub):
MacRuby (master)]$ grep -r HotCocoa * instruby.rb: when 'hotcocoa', 'rb_nibtool' misc/release/MacRuby.pmdoc/01macruby-contents.xml: .... rakelib/builder/options.rb: $stderr.puts "The 'build_as_embeddable' build configuration has been removed because it is no longer necessary. To package a full version of MacRuby inside your application, please use `macrake deploy` for HotCocoa apps and the `Embed MacRuby` target for Xcode apps." sample-macruby/About MacRuby Examples.rtf:\b HotCocoa sample-macruby/About MacRuby Examples.rtf:\b0 directory contains examples for the MacRuby's HotCocoa\ sample-macruby/Scripts/growl/hotcocoa_growl.rb:require 'hotcocoa' sample-macruby/Scripts/growl/hotcocoa_growl.rb: include HotCocoa sample-macruby/Scripts/growl/hotcocoa_sample.rb:require 'hotcocoa_growl' test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/mapper_test.rb:require 'hotcocoa' test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/mapper_test.rb: include HotCocoa::Mappings test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/mappings_test.rb:require 'hotcocoa' test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/mappings_test.rb: include HotCocoa test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/object_ext_test.rb:require 'hotcocoa' test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/object_ext_test.rb: assert_equal HotCocoa, Object.full_const_get("HotCocoa") test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/object_ext_test.rb: assert_equal HotCocoa::Mappings, Object.full_const_get("HotCocoa::Mappings") test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/plist_test.rb:require 'hotcocoa' test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/plist_test.rb: include HotCocoa
On 3/31/11 12:59 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
Ok, thanks a lot, Gary: I will try them.
So no "official" repository is going to be put up ?
Enzo
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Gary Weaver <gary.weaver@duke.edu> wrote:
Enzo,
What I meant is that there are various versions of HotCocoa on GitHub. You might want to try someone's repo that was updated more recently. The "official"/original version ( https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa ) is probably the one you are using, but you can find a more recent one with patches, etc. by looking at its network in GitHub: https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa/network
for example, some more recent versions at time of writing are: https://github.com/gmanley/hotcocoa https://github.com/jamis/hotcocoa
Gary
On 3/30/11 5:32 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
Gary, "Virus" was joke of course, however I changed the name on gist. I doubt it is a hotcocoa issue, but as soon as I have some time will try to replicate it with an IB version.
What do you mean by "where you got it" ? The code is mine, I was trying to do something along the lines of this http://www.nongnu.org/gstutorial/en/ch13s04.html.
By the way, do you know where can I find a working drag&drop macruby example ?
Enzo
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Gary Weaver <gary.weaver@duke.edu>wrote:
Enzo,
It might be a translation issue, but I wouldn't call that a virus (it doesn't replicate, it is just something that freezes your computer). I wouldn't call it "Virus" in the gist either, if I were you.
If it is a bug in HotCocoa, than it may be a bug (or at least undesired functionality if it freezes your Mac) in MacRuby or OS X, so you might want to dig deeper and provide more info on version (and where you got it, since it is in various places in GitHub) of HotCocoa.
Thanks! Gary
On 3/29/11 5:27 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
Hi all, I was trying to add drag & drop capabilities to a hotcocoa program and stumbled into a problem that really puzzles me: a macruby program can freeze your mac !
I uploaded the buggy fragment here: https://gist.github.com/893300
Don't run it unless you are prepared to reboot your machine the hard way, don't even "Force quit" works. In the instructions I say to launch it twice, but every drag & drop with any app after the crash freezes the app.
I'm using macruby 0.9, tried 0.10 but hotcocoa does not work with it (but this is another story !)
Hope someone can tell me if I did something wrong or found a bug somewhere.
Enzp
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