So are you guys not testing your macruby code? I was hoping that the ruby community would bring the testing culture to the cocoa world and make it a better place. Having gotten no feedback/suggestions whatsoever on my testing setup has me a bit wary.
I have a project for which I use Bacon, but it is to test a cocoa framework... like: http://www.macruby.org/recipes/tdd-in-objective-c-with-macruby.html 2010/7/9 Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com>
So are you guys not testing your macruby code? I was hoping that the ruby community would bring the testing culture to the cocoa world and make it a better place. Having gotten no feedback/suggestions whatsoever on my testing setup has me a bit wary.
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Same, its a lot more pleasant than using SenTest though it does make it harder to play through memory issues. Geoff On 9 Jul 2010, at 20:26, Louis-Philippe wrote:
I have a project for which I use Bacon, but it is to test a cocoa framework...
like:
http://www.macruby.org/recipes/tdd-in-objective-c-with-macruby.html
2010/7/9 Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> So are you guys not testing your macruby code? I was hoping that the ruby community would bring the testing culture to the cocoa world and make it a better place. Having gotten no feedback/suggestions whatsoever on my testing setup has me a bit wary.
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iCuke seems promising, but it is for iPhone dev [http://github.com/unboxed/icuke]. Probably could be repurposed for general Cocoa development. Bacon works, but I've found it more helpful for unit tests -- headless testing. In an automated sense, like 'rake test', there just isn't an analogous build step AFAIK. This is very uncomfortable for me. It's what's holding me up in getting going fully with MacRuby. You're right. It just seems sensible that the Rubyists would bring an elegant testing solution to MacRuby -- and preferably as a build step in the xcode template. Just my $.02 On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Ryan Davis wrote:
So are you guys not testing your macruby code? I was hoping that the ruby community would bring the testing culture to the cocoa world and make it a better place. Having gotten no feedback/suggestions whatsoever on my testing setup has me a bit wary.
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On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:47 , steve ross wrote:
iCuke seems promising, but it is for iPhone dev [http://github.com/unboxed/icuke]. Probably could be repurposed for general Cocoa development. Bacon works, but I've found it more helpful for unit tests -- headless testing. In an automated sense, like 'rake test', there just isn't an analogous build step AFAIK. This is very uncomfortable for me. It's what's holding me up in getting going fully with MacRuby.
Well.... please try out my (incomplete) solution to the problem. I _do_ have `rake test` working for UI testing. I even have a quasi-autotest running... but I don't think it is to the point of sharing it yet.
Hi. I use the unit test of Ruby1.9.2 RC1 and test MacRuby itself :D - http://github.com/Watson1978/test-macruby - http://github.com/Watson1978/test-macruby/downloads 2010/7/10 Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com>:
So are you guys not testing your macruby code? I was hoping that the ruby community would bring the testing culture to the cocoa world and make it a better place. Having gotten no feedback/suggestions whatsoever on my testing setup has me a bit wary.
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On Jul 9, 2010, at 13:29 , Watson wrote:
Hi.
I use the unit test of Ruby1.9.2 RC1 and test MacRuby itself :D
- http://github.com/Watson1978/test-macruby - http://github.com/Watson1978/test-macruby/downloads
cheater. :P
On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Ryan Davis wrote:
So are you guys not testing your macruby code? I was hoping that the ruby community would bring the testing culture to the cocoa world and make it a better place. Having gotten no feedback/suggestions whatsoever on my testing setup has me a bit wary.
MacRuby runs a large number of specs, and improving the % of specs which pass is a constant effort (we measure this frequently). Or were you talking about Cocoa developers integrating tests into their MacRuby apps? - Jordan
Jordan, Ryan was talking about Cocoa developers writing tests. He was trolling a little bit to get replies and it seems like it worked ;) - Matt On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh@apple.com> wrote:
On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Ryan Davis wrote:
So are you guys not testing your macruby code? I was hoping that the ruby community would bring the testing culture to the cocoa world and make it a better place. Having gotten no feedback/suggestions whatsoever on my testing setup has me a bit wary.
MacRuby runs a large number of specs, and improving the % of specs which pass is a constant effort (we measure this frequently). Or were you talking about Cocoa developers integrating tests into their MacRuby apps?
- Jordan
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I'm a sucker for trolls. ;-) On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Matt Aimonetti wrote:
Jordan, Ryan was talking about Cocoa developers writing tests. He was trolling a little bit to get replies and it seems like it worked ;)
- Matt
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh@apple.com> wrote:
On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Ryan Davis wrote:
So are you guys not testing your macruby code? I was hoping that the ruby community would bring the testing culture to the cocoa world and make it a better place. Having gotten no feedback/suggestions whatsoever on my testing setup has me a bit wary.
MacRuby runs a large number of specs, and improving the % of specs which pass is a constant effort (we measure this frequently). Or were you talking about Cocoa developers integrating tests into their MacRuby apps?
- Jordan
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I'm very interested in your test solution Ryan but right now I did a small break in MacRuby but as soon as finish what I'm doing now I will try it. Also the ability to have Minitest/Minispec by default inside MacRuby is just awesome. This idea will proceed? Thanks for Minitest and the env for tests in MacRuby. Daniel Lopes On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh@apple.com> wrote:
I'm a sucker for trolls. ;-)
On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Matt Aimonetti wrote:
Jordan, Ryan was talking about Cocoa developers writing tests. He was trolling a little bit to get replies and it seems like it worked ;)
- Matt
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh@apple.com> wrote:
On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Ryan Davis wrote:
So are you guys not testing your macruby code? I was hoping that the ruby community would bring the testing culture to the cocoa world and make it a better place. Having gotten no feedback/suggestions whatsoever on my testing setup has me a bit wary.
MacRuby runs a large number of specs, and improving the % of specs which pass is a constant effort (we measure this frequently). Or were you talking about Cocoa developers integrating tests into their MacRuby apps?
- Jordan
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On Jul 10, 2010, at 14:27 , Daniel Lopes wrote:
I'm very interested in your test solution Ryan but right now I did a small break in MacRuby but as soon as finish what I'm doing now I will try it.
Also the ability to have Minitest/Minispec by default inside MacRuby is just awesome. This idea will proceed?
Yes, minitest is the basis in 1.9. I try to keep it in sync with my gem releases, but 1.9.2 is about to come out so it'll prolly fall behind after that for a while.
Thanks for Minitest and the env for tests in MacRuby.
No prob! Thanks!
On Jul 9, 2010, at 15:03 , Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Ryan Davis wrote:
So are you guys not testing your macruby code? I was hoping that the ruby community would bring the testing culture to the cocoa world and make it a better place. Having gotten no feedback/suggestions whatsoever on my testing setup has me a bit wary.
MacRuby runs a large number of specs, and improving the % of specs which pass is a constant effort (we measure this frequently). Or were you talking about Cocoa developers integrating tests into their MacRuby apps?
I was talking about the latter, esp wrt my emails from 2010-06-23. (Much more fun. rubyspec is boring. :P)
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Daniel Lopes
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