Ahh, okay. I think i'll proceed with doing it the regular way. I was actually hoping to submit to the Mac AppStore. I hope they allow on there if it is a self contained app. Thanks for the reply Buddy --- Buddy Lindsey http://www.buddylindsey.com http://www.twitter.com/buddylindsey On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Thibault Martin-Lagardette <thibault.ml@ gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Buddy,

I would advise to use the "regular" way, aka using Xcode, Interface Builder etc. I could think of two reasons for that: 1/ HotCocoa is, as far as I know, not maintained anymore 2/ By using Interface Builder, you'll learn more about writing Cocoa apps, wether it is in MacRuby or Objective-C :-)

However, please be aware that as of today, it is not possible to submit, on the AppStore (the iOS AppStore), an application that has been written using MacRuby :-(. Sincerely, -- Thibault Martin-Lagardette

On Jan 1, 2011, at 05:09, Buddy Lindsey, Jr. wrote:

All,

I am just starting with MacRuby and am kind of confused. There seems to be 2 ways to do GUI development. Hotcocoa or Pure Cocoa API. My confusion is on which one is best I like hotcocoa because it seems fairly straight forward on doing GUI stuff, the little I have looked at it, but seems to rely on Cocoa API where there aren't any mappings. However, I can use interface builder and xcode more easily going with the pure cocoa api. I also am very confused when doing anything with interface builder so I am leaning toward hotcocoa.

As a note on my background. I just got my first mac in July and started doing anything with ruby [on rails] in August. I come from a web development background so desktop apps are a bit new to me.

Anyone have any advice, comments, and or words of wisdom all they way around? My goals is to make a fairly simple app I can put into the AppStore.

Thanks Buddy

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Ios== iphone &ipad Reasons are the missing garbage collector for now Cheers ben On 2 Jan 2011, at 21:55, Henry Maddocks <henry.maddocks@gmail.com> wrote:

Sent from my iPad

On 3/01/2011, at 5:03 AM, Thibault Martin-Lagardette <thibault.ml@gmail.com> wrote:

...

However, please be aware that as of today, it is not possible to submit, on the AppStore (the iOS AppStore), an application that has been written using MacRuby :-(.

Why not? What information do you have?

Henry

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Sent from my iPad On 3/01/2011, at 10:30 AM, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@apple.com> wrote:

I think Thibault may have been a little too terse in his statement, leaving it ambiguous as to why. This is not a question of developer agreements (which have been broadened since the original clause 3.3.1 was drafted) so much as a technology issue. MacRuby does not support ARM right now, and even if it did, UIKit is not GC-safe, so you wouldn't be able to do any UI in MacRuby - pretty pointless!

Sorry. In my panic induced haste I miss read what he said. I thought he was talking about the Mac App Store. I have a couple of apps pending. I'm aware of the iOS issue. Henry

Hi Buddy, This has aready been discussed on the list recently. See: http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macruby-devel/2010-November/006475.htm... Laurent On Jan 2, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Buddy Lindsey, Jr. wrote:

Henry,

That is awesome you have MacRuby apps pending. Please let us know if they make it. I am planning and working on my app based on the assumption that it will be accepted. Knowing one will would relieve a lot of stress about doing it.

Thanks. Buddy

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On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Henry Maddocks <henry.maddocks@gmail.com> wrote:

Sent from my iPad

On 3/01/2011, at 10:30 AM, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@apple.com> wrote:

...

I think Thibault may have been a little too terse in his statement, leaving it ambiguous as to why. This is not a question of developer agreements (which have been broadened since the original clause 3.3.1 was drafted) so much as a technology issue. MacRuby does not support ARM right now, and even if it did, UIKit is not GC-safe, so you wouldn't be able to do any UI in MacRuby - pretty pointless!

Sorry. In my panic induced haste I miss read what he said. I thought he was talking about the Mac App Store. I have a couple of apps pending.

I'm aware of the iOS issue.

Henry

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On 3/01/2011, at 4:57 PM, "Buddy Lindsey, Jr." <percent20@gmail.com> wrote:

. I haven't, yet, heard of any being officially accepted yet, but then I am new to the list and google hasn't produced much either. Just a lot of speculation that Apple should accept them.

I'm pretty sure there are MacRuby apps that have been accepted. People are just being coy about it.