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November 2012

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Re: [SCAP-On-Apple] [OVAL-DEVELOPER-LIST] OVAL 5.11 Release Goals and Timeline
by Haynes, Dan 07 Nov '12

07 Nov '12

Hi Peter, Great question! As a little background for those who may not have seen the announcement go by, Shawn Geddis of Apple recently launched the SCAP-On-Apple project on MacOSForge (http://scap-on-apple.macosforge.org/) which is a community driven project with the following mission. “The SCAP-On-Apple Open Source Project engages and empowers the SCAP community to strengthen the awareness, knowledge and collaboration on SCAP Content, Tools and Solutions with authoritative data for the Apple Platforms (OSX and iOS).” The SCAP-On-Apple project is meant to be a collaborative place for those interested in having SCAP support for Apple products and is meant to complement existing efforts. As you mentioned, I don’t think there are any explicit ground rules so I will give my thoughts on how I see the project fitting in from an OVAL perspective. From an OVAL perspective, the major benefit will be the authoritative information and reach back into Apple that Shawn Geddis will provide as well as the domain expertise and experience from members of the community who are focused on supporting Apple products. This is very helpful because we (the OVAL team at MITRE) are not domain experts in all platforms (and cannot be from a resources perspective) and we will be actively looking to the SCAP-On-Apple community help drive support for Apple products in OVAL. With regards to content development, I think a lot of the discussion (e.g. what settings to check in a security guide, how to check for vulnerabilities, etc.), development, and review would occur on the SCAP-On-Apple mailing lists. When complete, the SCAP-On-Apple project could then host that content on the project site and make it available to the community. Or, the project could decide that they want to have an existing repository to host the content. Both are valid approaches, however, this is a decision that the SCAP-On-Apple project will have to make. Although from the Contribute page on the wiki (http://scap-on-apple.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/contribute/) it sounds like the project will be maintaining a repository of content specific to Apple products. As far as the OVAL Language is concerned, I could see the SCAP-On-Apple project as being the incubator for discussing and developing new features needed to fully check Apple platforms with OVAL. The SCAP-On-Apple project should feel free to use the OVAL Language Sandbox (http://oval.mitre.org/language/sandbox.html) if they would like to implement schema changes. Once developed, the SCAP-On-Apple project could submit these features to the broader OVAL community (oval-developer-list) for review, discussion, and integration into an official release of OVAL. I also see it as the go to place when there are questions related to Apple platforms. Lastly, for tools, it will be a good place to ask questions about how to best implement features as it pertains to Apple products and provide a central location to share code and utilities with other members of the community who are interested in supporting Apple products. Anyways, those are my thoughts on how it would fit in. It would be great to hear what others think. Thanks, Danny From: Link, Peter R. [mailto:link1@llnl.gov] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 9:16 AM To: Haynes, Dan Subject: Re: [OVAL-DEVELOPER-LIST] OVAL 5.11 Release Goals and Timeline Danny, How are you going to integrate OVAL work on OSX/iOS with Apple's SCAP-on-Apple project? I haven't seen any information on what the ground rules are. Thanks. On Nov 5, 2012, at 12:50 PM, "Haynes, Dan" <dhaynes(a)MITRE.ORG<mailto:dhaynes@MITRE.ORG>> wrote: During the 2012 4th Quarter OVAL Board Meeting and the weeks following, we worked with the OVAL Board to develop goals and a timeline for the OVAL 5.11 release. Meeting minutes can be found here (http://oval.mitre.org/community/archives/boardminutes/20121015.pdf) The goals were developed based on what we have been hearing from the community. 3. Improve Apple support such that the Apple Security Guides and DISA STIGs are fully automatable for OSX and iOS 4. Peter Link Cyber Security Analyst Cyber Security Program Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory PO Box 808, L-315 Livermore, CA 94551-0808 link1(a)llnl.gov<mailto:link1@llnl.gov>

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Where/When do we start?
by Link, Peter R. 01 Nov '12

01 Nov '12

In light of recent postings asking about iOS6, bluetooth, and SCAP content I am reposting my email from early October (below). It was my understanding this project would replace or be in addition to efforts managed by NIST as the main project site for the creation of all aspects of SCAP content for Apple products. I am hoping it won't simply turn into another fed-talk email list. When are we going to start working on OVAL and XCCDF content? Will we simply take what DISA and CIS have done, fixing/enhancing their code and adding the additional parts necessary for full SCAP compliance? How will this be done? The SCAP-on-Apple website has a ticketing system but who is going to start? What are the ground rules? CIS has an OSX 10.8 project started and DISA has draft iOS6 content. I now CIS is more or less a private company while DISA is a federal organization. Both of these entities can complicate matters so I'd like to get the direction of SCAP-on-Apple out in the open. I also know there is work being done by OVAL but how will we make use of their contributions? Or do we contribute to them? As for device configuration, LLNL is really pressing for expanded use of the new Profiles capability so we'd like to see configuration settings pushed in that direction instead of creating a lot of scripts. Profiles will be a whole lot easier to manage and test than scripts. ----- (repost from October 9) Now that the SCAP on Apple working group has been created, I would like to know if any initial guidelines were discussed at the BoF meeting. Who's going to start? With what configuration information? Will this site be the primary working area for SCAP content for Apple (OSX and iOS)? Will people still use OVAL's repository for Apple products as the primary source or duplicate content between the two? I know some work has been done by various people. Will any of that be submitted to this site or is everything starting from the ground up? **** Not that anyone has asked but my ultimate goal for this project is to provide complete SCAP content for tools (including OCIL) necessary to create, validate, and remediate a USGCB baseline configuration for OSX and secondarily, for iOS. This is a multistep process but having a USGCB configuration has been on my list for many years. Peter Link Cyber Security Analyst Cyber Security Program Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory PO Box 808, L-315 Livermore, CA 94551-0808 link1(a)llnl.gov<mailto:link1@llnl.gov> The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect the views or position of the U.S. Department of Energy, Federal Government, National Nuclear Security Administration, Lawrence Livermore National Security, or Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

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