October 2008 - Xquartz-dev - lists.macosforge.org

Re: [Xquartz-dev] 1.4.2-apple20 -- ghosts!
by Dave Ray 25 Oct '08

25 Oct '08

For what it's worth, I'm also seeing ghosts. I am running Enlightenment window manager, and the "tooltip" popups from the WM are leaving discolored spots after the original tooltip exits. These spots do persist over to Aqua windows as blank areas. I can switch from X11.app to Safari and see the blank spots in the Safari window, until I move the window to the screen edge and back again to make it redraw. I'm not sure what further details would be helpful, but I can definitely reproduce it. I am running the latest 2.3.2-beta with 1.4.2-apple20 X11. By the way, thanks for the great updates! Dave

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1.4.2-apple20
by Jeremy Huddleston 25 Oct '08

25 Oct '08

It's been a while since I pushed out a binary update, and much has happened recently... I was planning on putting out a beta2, but I want to wait for some more things before packaging that all up, so here's something to hold you over in the mean time. http://static.macosforge.org/xquartz/downloads/X11-1.4.2-apple20.bz2 1.4.2-apple20 brings in the following changes over 1.4.2-apple19: Fullscreen (same as Tiger) Follow-system layout works again (2.3.0 regression) Default dpi to 96 instead of 75 Only send mouse events while in the background if we're over a visible window. This "breaks" xeyes but gets rid of annoying tooltips. Fixed window levels (this might fix that gimp issue... ?) It was compiled with applewmproto-1.1.1, so quartz-wm will now start with --no-pasteboard by default --Jeremy

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X11 siplay resolution
by Simone Karin Lehmann 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

Some while ago this topic was discussed on the x11-users mailinglist and a bug report was filed http://lists.apple.com/archives/x11-users/2008/Jul/msg00003.html how the X11 display resoultion of 75 dpi could be easily changed to the more appropriate 96 dpi. For more information see this hint http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080621201901244 Since the fix is quite small, is there any chance that this will go into the upcoming 2.3.2 ? Setting defaultserverargs="-dpi 96" in /usr/X11/bin/startx will be sufficient. Thx Simone

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2.3.2 release plans
by Jeremy Huddleston 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

A ton of work has been going into 2.3.2... this release is going to see fullscreen support, stereo GLX, and clipboard/pasteboard synchronization updates as well as various other bug fixes. In order to actually get something released, I went through a bunch of the 2.3.2 milestone bugs and pushed some back to 2.3.3, so we can focus efforts on the "big" issues being worked on for this release. If your favorite bug got bumped... sorry. --Jeremy

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XListDepths ordering changed
by Nicholas Riley 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

Hi, I've been unable to resume my NX session on my MacBook Pro. The problem appears to be that NX is matching the depth list returned from XListDepths one for one with the depth list on the server that first hosted the display. With the X11 that comes with 10.4.11 and 10.5.5, the result, as printed by xdpyinfo, is: depths (7): 24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32 With 1.4.2-apple19 I get: depths (7): 24, 15, 1, 4, 8, 16, 32 Could this be changed back? I tried with the "Colors:" options in preferences set to both "Millions" and "From display" but it did not make a difference. -- Nicholas Riley <njriley(a)uiuc.edu> | <http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/njriley>

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pbproxy-13 (a pasteboard proxy for XQuartz)
by George Peter Staplin 18 Oct '08

18 Oct '08

About pbproxy ------------- pbproxy is an application that transfers selections to/from X11 and the Mac pasteboard/clipboard. It supports copying strings, such as UTF-8, Latin-1, and Compound text. In addition to those, there is support for image copying, so you can copy images to/from the X11 Gimp (and other X11 applications that support image copying) and Mac applications. There is also support for copying and pasting very large amounts of data that used to previously fail. Changes since release 11 --------------------- 13 - Thu Sep 25, 2008 Remove the backup files from the distribution that I mistakenly left when building the tarball. Add a release_checklist.txt and the interactive test suite to the tests directory. --------------------- 12 - Thu Sep 25, 2008 I fixed the STRING property, so that now rxvt can copy/paste, as well as other apps that only support the Latin-1/STRING. I fixed the usage of the NSString cStringUsingEncoding: - it doesn't NUL terminate the string, which lead to a bus error in some cases. So, we use lengthOfBytesUsingEncoding: to get the length in bytes instead of strlen(). Add a -force option to ./install.sh. For example: sudo ./install.sh -force Document this new flag in the README.txt. ----------------------------------------- Please report bugs to this list or gstaplin at apple.com George -- http://www.xmission.com/~georgeps/ http://whim.linuxsys.net http://code.google.com/p/megapkg/ http://people.freedesktop.org/~gstaplin/

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override-redirect problems
by Jeremy Huddleston 17 Oct '08

17 Oct '08

I sent this message to the main xorg list, but thought I should pop it in here as well... --Jeremy === We're having some difficulty with menus in some applications like nedit and xemacs. I believe these menus are windows with override- redirect set on them per section 4.1.10 (popup windows) of ICCCM: http://tronche.com/gui/x/icccm/sec-4.html#s-4.1.10 """ If the window will be visible for a very short time and should not be decorated at all, the client can set override-redirect on the window. In general, this should be done only if the pointer is grabbed while the window is mapped. The window manager will never interfere with these windows, which should be used with caution. An example of an appropriate use is a pop-up menu. """ The problem is that windows following this route don't get handled by our WM and don't get their native windows parented properly by quartz- wm. When a window sets WM_TRANSIENT_FOR, we set its native window as a child to its parent's native window so the menu "belongs to" and "moves with" the parent. This works fine for nedit's Open dialog for example. Menus that don't set WM_TRANSIENT_FOR and follow this override-redirect approach don't get parented properly and cause problems (like the menu appearing in the wrong Space [virtual desktop] because that's the Space it was last rendered in and thus the native window bound to). We need a way to bind the native window for this menu to the native window for its parent. Currently it is just bound to the Space in which it is first rendered... so does anyone have some suggestions for the least invasive way to go about this? Doing some quick investigation with xwininfo on the window, I see no wm hints, and it's parent window id is the root window... so... yick. Any thoughts? xwininfo: Window id: 0x800044 (has no name) Absolute upper-left X: 4 Absolute upper-left Y: 67 Relative upper-left X: 4 Relative upper-left Y: 67 Width: 202 Height: 418 Depth: 24 Visual Class: TrueColor Border width: 0 Class: InputOutput Colormap: 0x21 (installed) Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity Backing Store State: NotUseful Save Under State: yes Map State: IsViewable Override Redirect State: yes Corners: +4+67 -3154+67 -3154-715 +4-715 -geometry 202x418+4+67 xwininfo: Window id: 0x800044 (has no name) No window manager hints defined xwininfo: Window id: 0x800044 (has no name) Root window id: 0xbf (the root window) (has no name) Parent window id: 0xbf (the root window) (has no name)

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new xpbproxy
by Jeremy Huddleston 17 Oct '08

17 Oct '08

http://people.freedesktop.org/~jeremyhu/xpbproxy-20081015.bz2 This is a slight bugfix and feature addition for xpbproxy. Just download, decompress, and replace /usr/X11/bin/xpbproxy with this one (you need 2.3.2_beta1 first). Fixes/new features: 1) The "Update pasteboard immediately" option in the preferences pane is now implemented. You can now automatically copy something when you select it. Note however that there is a small caveat to this. We have *NO* way of knowing that you have selected new text in an application. If you select some text in an app then select new text in that app and you're left with the original text in the pasteboard, there's absolutely nothing whatsoever that we can do to fix this. Try prodding the developer of that application to re-acquire the PRIMARY buffer on selection even if they already have it. GTK, QT, and other toolkits do this already, but there may be some rogue apps out there. 2) CLIPBOARD->Pasteboard should now be working properly. We were incorrectly detecting that a CLIPBOARD_MANAGER was already running (thus disabling this feature) when it really wasn't. My bad. Known issues: * Some image conversion / unrecognized mime types may still exist. If you can't copy an image of a specific format from OSX to X11 or visa versa, please file a bug in our trac with the image attached. * nedit's copied text doesn't end up in the Pasteboard even though it can be pasted to other X11 apps from CLIPBOARD (workaround is cmd-c) * MULTIPLE not supported yet * CUT_BUFFER* not supported yet --Jeremy

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[ANNOUNCE] applewmproto 1.1.1
by Jeremy Huddleston 17 Oct '08

17 Oct '08

This is a brown-bag release for applewmproto. applewmproto-1.1.0 did not have the version numbers set correctly in applewmstr.h Jeremy Huddleston (2): Bump version numbers in the header. Updated configure.ac for 1.1.1 git tag: applewmproto-1.1.1 http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/proto/applewmproto-1.1.1.tar… MD5: f229e329b39fc4b222f6a6641de1fa6b applewmproto-1.1.1.tar.bz2 SHA1: c2fd52bf9f2ad05141cc37da56e8b46113e73172 applewmproto-1.1.1.tar.bz2 http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/proto/applewmproto-1.1.1.tar… MD5: e4cc9f2664e9c02b6be032bdde078378 applewmproto-1.1.1.tar.gz SHA1: 108fa2ce6ae774fc3d9c504f5667387c88b19ac5 applewmproto-1.1.1.tar.gz

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Re: [Xquartz-dev] 2.3.2_beta1
by Dave Ray 12 Oct '08

12 Oct '08

Jeremy Huddleston wrote: > > Dave Ray wrote: >> Copy/paste works as expected with xpbproxy, but only in the OS-X -> >> X11 direction. I never thought to check in the other direction until I >> read the recent post. Is this the intended behavior? > >Yes, we intend the synchronization to work >both ways assuming you have the options checked in preferences. The >only option not currently implemented is 'copy on select' Okay, well than I have some interesting things to report. In X11 preferences I have all the paste checkbox items checked. I can copy text from Textedit -> xterm, Textedit -> Eterm I can copy text from xterm -> Textedit, but NOT Eterm -> Textedit. Perhaps I need to recompile that with a flag of some sort. I can copy graphics from Preview -> Gimp, Photoshop -> Gimp and Graphic Converter -> Gimp. I can NOT copt graphics from Gimp -> any graphics app in OS-X. To copy from an X11 app to OS-X, I select the text/graphic, then use command-C in the OS-X menu, then I switch to the OS-X app and type command-V. Let me know if I'm doing something wrong. Another observation: If the selected text/graphic is selected, and then deselected, the normal X11 behavior is to keep the last selected item in the X11 clipboard buffer, even without explicitly using keys to copy. This is because X11 doesn't have global copy/paste keys like OS-X. I found that if I deselect the selected item in X11, and then use command-C, the item is in the X11 buffer but not copied to the OS-X clipboard. This is probably by design but I wanted to be sure. I thought it would be useful for you to get this kind of feedback from someone not using quartz-wm. >> John Koren wrote >>> This results in a error message " A clipboard manager is already >>> running. pbproxy will not sync clipboard to pasteboard." being >>> written in the system log. >> >> If you are getting this message, pbproxy is still being launched >> somehow, even though it is not in your .xinitrc. > >Or any other application that claims the CLIPBOARD_MANAGER atom >(xclipboard, klipper, etc). So, does this mean the message "pbproxy will not sync clipboard.." is a generic message that will be displayed in the startup logs if there is any conflict, even if pbproxy is not installed? Dave

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