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Several nagging problems in recent Xquartz versions…
by SciFi 05 Apr '12

05 Apr '12

Hi, I'm having a few nagging problems with Xquartz, many versions of late, including 2.6.3_rc2 (current as I type/send this note). 1. Whenever I hot-plug a 2nd monitor into the mini-DVI port, all Xquartz windows instantly want to get shoved-over to that monitor. I must move my mouse-pointer over to that monitor and drag-back all those windows to main screen (the one marked by the desktop bar in Display Prefs). I do not use, nor have anything configured for, Spaces and/or Exposé etc., and I've tried various Xquartz Prefs to no avail. Display Prefs is configured as an additional separate 2nd-screen, no 'mirroring' involved. 2. I did file a report on my semi-stuck 'h' key, but I am presently unable to find it to update more tests. In short, I have tried _several_ keyboards, of various kinds, even an Apple Wireless (old style), and one expressly designed for M$-Windows "multimedia" apps made by Micro-Innovations, model KB565BL. I've even tried to adjust the Keyboard Prefs to slow-down repeated keys etc. to no avail. Nevertheless, I *will* eventually get a stuck-'h' key that self-repeats until I hit it a few more times. Remember that it is only the apps running under Xquartz (including even xterm) that is doing this, none of the regular OSX apps have this problem. So this does not indicate a hardware problem to me -- it indicates we have a very weird software interplay causing it, and I'm totally unsure where to ask for more help other than this list and/or bug-reports. To wit, this *does* drive me crazy at times, because 'h' is a letter that is very-often used, esp'ly for displaying Headers under Pan (a very famous gtk+/glib newsreader app). 3. The massive update included in the 2.6.1 version of Xquartz, and continuing now with 2.6.3_rc2, has caused marked visual problems with various text. I've written up a report, and attached a PNG to show a few of the problems, here: <https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/pan-users/2011-05/msg00019.html> I was hoping to get some indication on what-all I should update in the glib/gtk+ train of requisites. No one has helped there, so I now bring this problem to this list where the X11 gizmos were bothered-with in the first place. ;) FWIW I do not see this problem in the xterm window, it seems to be only in the glib/gtk+ apps. And yes 2.6.0-and-before I believe do not cause this problem. (More is explained in the linked-to report.) 4. I did open a newish bug-report to cover a simple fix when GNU 'mktemp' ends-up being used rather than the BSD 'mktemp'. This is bug #490 in the Xquartz tracker. 5. Please do not ask me to use a pkg-mgr like Fink or Macports etc. If any src-tarball won't work right "out of the box", then we need to study & fix things in the usual *ix manners, rather than covering-it-up. ;) 6. Personally, I am medically disabled / retired with 38+years work on record. My professional life was mainly in a big IBM mainframe shop doing systems-level work (not the app-level programming). I do open-src projects now as a hobby to keep my brain sharp. ;) All this is on a model iMac6,1 C2D machine with 4GB RAM (maxed-out), running 10.6.8 and all official updates so far. I have no kind of ~/.x* contraptions at all, so nothing should be bothering the Xquartz defaults etc. I try to keep watch on tons of projects via Gmane, a main reason I use Pan (where we're testing several new enhancements to it), and will attempt to follow any help with these problems. Thank you for reading.

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Re: [Xquartz-dev] weird behavior - wacom
by Christof Wolf 18 Mar '12

18 Mar '12

Jeremy, sorry, took me a while :-) >Can you try isolating the cause for me? With 2.7.1 installed, backup the server binary: >cd /Applications/Utilities/XQuartz.app/Contents/MacOS/ >sudo cp X11.bin X11.bin-2.7.1 >Next, install XQuartz-2.7.2_beta2 >Then restore the old server binary >cd /Applications/Utilities/XQuartz.app/Contents/MacOS/ >sudo cp X11.bin X11.bin-2.7.2_beta2 >sudo cp X11.bin-2.7.1 X11.bin >If it works, this means it's a server issue. If it still fails, then it's >probably a client issue. it works, so its a server issue, anythingelse you want me to do? christof -- public key www.hfph.mwn.de/~chwolf/ch.wolf.asc Please respect my privacy and do not make my contact information available to third parties. This email is UNCLASSIFIED.

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XQuartz 2.7.2 beta3
by Jeremy Huddleston 17 Mar '12

17 Mar '12

I've got another beta release of 2.7.2 ready for testing. I'm sorry I didn't get around to release notes for 2.7.2 beta2. That version was essentially the same as beta1 but with libX11 1.5 beta1, libxcb-1.8, and update libpng for security fixes. The main changes in 2.7.2 beta3 are updates to freetype for additional security fixes, libX11 1.5 RC1, mesa 8.0.1, freeglut 2.8.0 (replaces MesaGLUT), and fixes for regressions in libXi and libXft that were present in the earlier betas. The server itself remains unchanged. The only known regression at this point is for users of tablets. If you're a tablet user, please stick with 2.7.1 for now (or just use the old server binary on top of 2.7.2 beta3). This is a blocker issue, and I won't ship RC1 without this fixed (either by rolling back to the 1.11 server or by fixing the issue in 1.12). For more information, please see the beta release notes: http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/X112.7.2 http://xquartz.macosforge.org/downloads/SL/XQuartz-2.7.2_beta3.dmg Thanks, Jeremy

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Re: [Xquartz-dev] Website Facelift
by Kyle McKay 15 Mar '12

15 Mar '12

Jeremy, I would be happy to do a similar design for XQuartz. I will send you something off-list to look at. Kyle On March 10, 2012 10:17:31 PST, Jeremy Huddleston wrote: > Hey Kyle, > Thanks for the examples. Those are quite clean and simple layouts. > Would you be willing to do a similar design for XQuartz? If not, do > I have your permission to use yours as a template? How should I > credit you at the bottom? > > Thanks, > Jeremy > > On Mar 9, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Kyle McKay <mackyle(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Jeremy, >> >> Here are examples of some of my project landing pages: >> >> http://mackyle.github.com/fakeroot/ >> http://mackyle.github.com/blocksruntime/ >> http://solwidget.googlecode.com/git-history/www/About.html >> http://repo.or.cz/w/class-dump.git >> >> On March 9, 2012 01:16:58 PST, Jeremy Huddleston wrote: >>> >>> I want to give the XQuartz landing page a bit of a face lift to >>> make it easier for people to install the latest bits without >>> having to dive through a wiki. wiki's are great for detailed >>> information, but many people probably just want a big "click here >>> to get the bits" button like http://www.firefox.com ... I don't >>> want to replace the existing wiki, just provide a new landing page. >>> >>> I threw up a quick example of what I'm aiming for content wise >>> here (and to serve as proof of my lack of HTML skills): >>> http://static.macosforge.org/xquartz/downloads/testing/landing.html

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weird behavior - wacom
by Christof Wolf 10 Mar '12

10 Mar '12

Jeremy, I observed a weird behavior with beta 1 and 2 and my wacom pen (wacom intuos4). If I want to click with my pen in any menu or move any window around e.g. a terminal I cannot click into the appropriate bar, field or button. Only if I move the mouse pointer 2 or 3mm towards the top than I can select what I want. This is consistently with all apps or windows. Interestingly at the same time no problem with the touchpad I am on my macbook air on 10.6.8 I am back to 2.7.1 (1.11.4), it works fine. any idea? christof -- public key www.hfph.mwn.de/~chwolf/ch.wolf.asc Please respect my privacy and do not make my contact information available to third parties. This email is UNCLASSIFIED.

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Re: [Xquartz-dev] Website Facelift (Jeremy Huddleston)
by Kyle McKay 10 Mar '12

10 Mar '12

Jeremy, Here are examples of some of my project landing pages: No table of contents: http://mackyle.github.com/fakeroot/ With table of contents: http://mackyle.github.com/blocksruntime/ Slightly different style: http://solwidget.googlecode.com/git-history/www/About.html Or an even smaller landing page (it's embedded in the "readme" section -- it's not my project, but I created the mirror and did the landing page for the mirror) that may most closely match what you're looking for as it's short (fits on a single page) and has everything you might want to know about the project if you're in a hurry right there in front of you: http://repo.or.cz/w/class-dump.git Let me know if you like any of them and I'll produce a page for you if you give me the content (I'm assuming you'd want just a little bit more content than you have on your example landing.html page). :) Kyle On March 9, 2012 01:16:58 PST, Jeremy Huddleston wrote: > Hey guys, > > I thought I'd throw this out there to see if anyone has any mad web > skills they'd like to show off. > > I want to give the XQuartz landing page a bit of a face lift to make > it easier for people to install the latest bits without having to > dive through a wiki. wiki's are great for detailed information, but > many people probably just want a big "click here to get the bits" > button like http://www.firefox.com ... I don't want to replace the > existing wiki, just provide a new landing page. > > The main problem is that I really suck at web design. No really, > I'm down right awful at it. I can handle all the technical bits, > but I can't do CSS and layout to save my skin. So if you've got > layout chops and want to help out, please drop me a line either on > the list or personally. > > I threw up a quick example of what I'm aiming for content wise here > (and to serve as proof of my lack of HTML skills): > http://static.macosforge.org/xquartz/downloads/testing/landing.html > > And as fair warning, if nobody responds, that ugly page might just > be what I end up using ;) > > Thanks, > Jeremy

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Website Facelift
by Jeremy Huddleston 09 Mar '12

09 Mar '12

Hey guys, I thought I'd throw this out there to see if anyone has any mad web skills they'd like to show off. I want to give the XQuartz landing page a bit of a face lift to make it easier for people to install the latest bits without having to dive through a wiki. wiki's are great for detailed information, but many people probably just want a big "click here to get the bits" button like http://www.firefox.com ... I don't want to replace the existing wiki, just provide a new landing page. The main problem is that I really suck at web design. No really, I'm down right awful at it. I can handle all the technical bits, but I can't do CSS and layout to save my skin. So if you've got layout chops and want to help out, please drop me a line either on the list or personally. I threw up a quick example of what I'm aiming for content wise here (and to serve as proof of my lack of HTML skills): http://static.macosforge.org/xquartz/downloads/testing/landing.html And as fair warning, if nobody responds, that ugly page might just be what I end up using ;) Thanks, Jeremy

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XQuartz 2.7.2_beta1
by Jeremy Huddleston 05 Mar '12

05 Mar '12

Hi all, 2.7.1 was released 2 weeks ago, and I know you guys are itching to try something new. I've packaged up the first beta of XQuartz-2.7.2 for testing. The server version has jumped to 1.12.0 which was just released this weekend. The XQuartz-specific bits are actually the same, so I don't expect too many issues to crop up in the server itself. We've also pulled in a bunch of version updates for various bug fixes from X.org, and I'll continue to roll those in to future betas as they're released in lead-up to X11R7.7 over the next few weeks. Xfake, Xvfb, and Xnest are now building from xorg-server-1.12.0, but Xephyr is still building from the older 1.6.5 code as in previous releases due to keymapping issues I have not yet addressed. One new feature in this release is the inclusion of libXaw3d which is now being maintained by X.org. Another new feature in this release is the inclusion of the Xorg DDX (/opt/X11/bin/Xorg). This is provided for advanced users or development purposes only. There are various usability issues that need to be addressed before it is really ready for prime time (including logging directories, configurations (xorg.conf), and others), but it should serve as a good starting poing for anyone wanting to try out using Xorg with the dummy or nested drivers instead of Xfake, Xvfb, Xephyr, and Xnest. The dummy video drivers are also provided in this release, and the nested video driver is available in git (http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-nested/) and will probably be in the next beta. This should also be useful for anyone wanting to build newer versions of Xvnc which are built on top of the Xorg DDX. Current changes are listed on the release notes draft: http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/X112.7.2 And the package can be downloaded here: http://static.macosforge.org/xquartz/downloads/SL/XQuartz-2.7.2_beta1.dmg Thanks, Jeremy

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