Jeremy, It drives me crazy, I have a total weired bug! After using Kmail a while (under X11, SnowLeopard 10.6.1) I cannot use my keyboard anymore, only if I hit "1" or ">" but I can not type anything in any application. That repeats all the time - I have to restart X11 and after a while it goes crazy again. the ONLY message I got is 14.09.09 18:38:49 [0x0-0x73073].org.x.X11[4291] Atom list is not a multiple of the size of an atom! and I am not even sure, if that has anything to do with it. grr, it just happened again in this moment, instead of "return" I get "Enter the name of the application you want to run or the URL you want to view" command. I am writing this on my macbook air - with 10.6 - I did not have this problem with 10.6 When will X11 2.4.1 be released? christof