I think I'm just going to release the 'bash --login startx' launchd.plist with startx pushing /usr/X11/bin into PATH if it's not there already. This doesn't assume your users will use bash. It just uses bash because it's there. When the users start xterm from the Applications menu, they'll get their tcsh shell as expected, and they'll get a login tcsh shell because it's started by '/usr/bin/login -fp <username> /usr/X11/bin/xterm' which tells xterm to be a login terminal which tells the shell to be a login shell. Other applications (maybe 'xemacs' as an example) will inherit the BASH environment provided to them. I honestly don't see an easy, robust, clean solution for this, and the 'bash --login' route is what I came up with as the cleanest one, but it provides the BASH environment. Your users could probably change /System/Library/ org.x.X11.plist to something better for their tcsh setup... or even just start a terminal and execute something from there... Now that I think about it, I don't see how this is even a regression. Are you absolutely positive that XQuartz is even getting your tcsh environment with 2.1.1 (or any previous version)? I don't think it should be. You can test this by: mkdir ~/tcsh_only_bin echo "/usr/X11/bin/xterm" > ~/tcsh_only_bin/tcsh_xterm chmod 755 ~/tcsh_only_bin/tcsh_xterm <edit ~/.login ~/.cshrc or whatnot to put ~/tcsh_only_bin in $PATH> restart X Add 'tcsh_only_bin' to the Applications menu (without the full path) Launch that menu item. My bet is that it won't work as I don't believe it should be getting the environment currently. Can you please check that out for me? --Jeremy On Jan 9, 2008, at 06:51, Jamie Kennea wrote:
On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:55 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:
For people who don't have bash as their login shell, this is a regression.
Assuming people are going to use bash is troublesome. Most of our users are set up to use tcsh, the policy which is set by our LDAP server which we use to authenticate our users on Linux and Mac. I know Macs default to bash, but one shouldn't assume the default is kept, especially in environments like ours.
Jamie