contact Ben... Jeremy, would it be worth asking Ben to contact Owen via irc #GTK+ on irc.gnome.org they seem like a friendly bunch. which can be rare in this thin atmosphere... regards Jonathan Chetwynd j.chetwynd@btinternet.com http://www.openicon.org/ +44 (0) 20 7978 1764 from #GTK+ on irc.gnome.org owen: I don't think that is separable from "fix XInput" The GTK+ API's are simple and clear, but XInput (as it has historically existed) is a broken system that doesn't give suffiicent information to hook it up to the GTK+ API Peter Hutterer has been doing some work on fixing XInput, though it's going to take some more attention to the ecosystem to get it really right (that is, you plug in a tablet, it just works everywhere out of the box) owen 's concern about tablet operation on a proprietary operating system? Close to zero And on OS X, I think Gtk Quartz is more interesting place to spend effort Anyways, my opinion on XQuartz + GTK i that it first needs to be fixed thoroughly on Linux, then the XQuartz changes to make it work out of the box will be obvious ebassi: what owen is trying to say is that the native quartz backend is far more interesting than using X11 on OSX so the effort should go in fixing tablet support there