I just want a little input, as I'm not sure exactly where this bug lies... I can only reproduce this when using Wine on Xquartz with quartz-wm. The problem is, if you maximize a window ever with the green button... even if you press it again to restore former size, manually resize.. whatever... the next time its launched, it always starts out at a maximized size. Its not truly maximized, as you have to manually resize it down smaller (its just a stretched big window)... even doing so, next time it starts, its always maximized size again... its basically stuck this way no matter what you do every time it starts. If you never press the maximize button, then it remembers window sizes and starts right just fine. Now if I make Wine not use the window manager for decoration or control... Wine works fine and never has this issue. I can basically work around the problem by disabling it using quartz-wm, resize it... quit... then re-enable it using quartz-wm, and launch and its fine... until I ever use the maximize button again. No, I haven't been able to reproduce this in any X apps other than using Wine, but none of those ever even seem to try to remember size, they always launch at a default size, so the bug might not be apparent. I've been able to reproduce this problem on Apple's X11 on 10.5, 10.6 and several versions of Xquartz, and with several versions of quartz-wm. I'm not entirely sure if the problem is in Xquartz, quartz-wm, or just Wine itself though... Are there any good non-Wine X11 apps I can test with that will actually try to remember window size when launched I can test with? I never really use anything in X except Wine (and xterm)... I just want to rule Wine out if possible... or if it is a Wine only problem, I know where to look...