Re: [Xquartz-dev] Fully self contained Xquartz.app?
Am 07/16/2010 12:03 AM, Jeremy Huddleston <jeremyhu@apple.com> schrieb:
This sounds like it may be this issue:
http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/ticket/58
On Jul 15, 2010, at 12:03, Bob wrote:
Yes, I usually work in fullscreen mode on my laptop and this is a huge annoyance. It happens intermittently about once an hour for me and this is using quartzwm with terms and emacs (so I don't think your lack of a WM is the issue). I seem to remember a long time ago there was some discussion of this and it was stated that it is caused by things outside of X11 and thus hard (seemingly impossible?) to fix. Also, I think it is related to the momentary loss of focus seen in rootless mode but it is far more jarring in fullscreen mode (and seems to last much longer).
On Jul 15, 2010, at 4:44 AM, Eeri Kask wrote:
The most I can say today, it seems window stacking order changes or unmap/map requests result in effects which can be explained like the misordered delivery or dropping of some enter/leave events, which then understandably often results in a mess in focus management; let it be focus by PointerRoot by the X-server or by assigning by some window manager implementing sloppy-focus-follows mouse.
Yes the above ticket deals with the once-per-hour visible switches from fullscreen-X to Aqua screen and back to X, a phenomenon I managed to successfully defeat by removing /System/Library/UserEventPlugins/iCalAlarmAgent.plugin/ from the system. The problems I pointed out above most probably are unrelated to this known issue as they even seem to have no temporal correlations at all as opposed to the predictability of iCal chronometrical determinism. (There are definitely no X->Aqua->X switches observably occurring this time.) The enter/leave/focus issues happen often by some client window being mapped (or changing window stacking order) exactly under the mouse which then doesn't get appropriate focus from server while in PointerRoot, and sometimes don't get Enter-/LeaveNotify events. So it is different from the above iCal because the focus apparently doesn't leave X, the mouse/focus only appear in the wrong X-window; due to some window-configure (raise/lower/map/unmap) side effects. Greetings, Eeri Kask
Fri, 16 Jul 2010 (11:43 +0200 UTC) Eeri Kask wrote:
Am 07/16/2010 12:03 AM, Jeremy Huddleston <jeremyhu@apple.com> schrieb:
This sounds like it may be this issue:
http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/ticket/58
On Jul 15, 2010, at 12:03, Bob wrote:
Yes, I usually work in fullscreen mode on my laptop and this is a huge annoyance. It happens intermittently about once an hour for me and [...] Yes the above ticket deals with the once-per-hour visible switches from fullscreen-X to Aqua screen and back to X, a phenomenon I managed to successfully defeat by removing
/System/Library/UserEventPlugins/iCalAlarmAgent.plugin/
from the system.
This solution does not fix the problem in my case. There appears to be more to it than the plugin. I see the loss of focus on my Leopard G5 and my SL 2010 MBP. It is almost not noticable on the MBP because that machine is faster. -- Dr. Robert Delius Royar Associate Professor of English Morehead State University Morehead, Kentucky
doesn't fix it for me either... I just tried getting rid of that... and was running fullscreen for over an hour and it was looking good, then all of a sudden just now... switched back to showing the desktop for a second... grrr... its definitely not just that plugin.... I'm on a MBP running 10.6.4. On Jul 16, 2010, at 8:42 AM, robert delius royar wrote:
Fri, 16 Jul 2010 (11:43 +0200 UTC) Eeri Kask wrote:
Am 07/16/2010 12:03 AM, Jeremy Huddleston <jeremyhu@apple.com> schrieb:
This sounds like it may be this issue:
http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/ticket/58
On Jul 15, 2010, at 12:03, Bob wrote:
Yes, I usually work in fullscreen mode on my laptop and this is a huge annoyance. It happens intermittently about once an hour for me and [...] Yes the above ticket deals with the once-per-hour visible switches from fullscreen-X to Aqua screen and back to X, a phenomenon I managed to successfully defeat by removing
/System/Library/UserEventPlugins/iCalAlarmAgent.plugin/
from the system.
This solution does not fix the problem in my case. There appears to be more to it than the plugin. I see the loss of focus on my Leopard G5 and my SL 2010 MBP. It is almost not noticable on the MBP because that machine is faster.
-- Dr. Robert Delius Royar Associate Professor of English Morehead State University Morehead, Kentucky
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