On Sep 6, 2008, at 07:23, Jay Levitt wrote:

Jeremy Huddleston wrote:

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Known bug: http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/ticket/58 I'd be willing to bet that Growl is actually the culprit here, but I have growl on my system with no problem... so /shrug I have no way to really reproduce this, so I don't know what is going on to cause it. Without a reliable test case, this isn't going to get fixed, so the more information you can give, the better.

Well, I can definitely reproduce it! It happens at least once a minute.

Great. It's never happened here, so let's figure out how to break my system, so I can figure out how to fix it.

What sort of info would be useful? I imagine that dtrace can tell us a lot, but frankly I haven't really learned it yet.

I basically need a way to trigger it. I'd love to be able to do: void cause_x11_to_drop_focus() { ... } int main() { while(1) { cause_x_to_drop_focus(); sleep(10); } } Filling in that '...' would go a long way to solving this problem.

Is there a system call akin to "steal focus now!" that I should be looking for? (and how would I do that?)

There is SetFrontProcess and maybe something like ActivateTSMDocument

I could also learn to build Growl under XCode, and run it under the debugger.. but again, any ideas what I could look for? I have yet to do any real development on a Mac.

Well... before you do that, does it go away when you disable Growl? If so, what applications do you have installed that use Growl?