[launchd-dev] launchd on freebsd

Wed Sep 24 21:42:23 PDT 2008

On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 12:38 -0700, Tsvetomir Dimitrov wrote:
> Please excuse my last reply. I was a bit sleepy and missed the expat
> part. We can use libxml2 (http://xmlsoft.org/). It can parse a XML
> file to tree and some other functionality which we may or may not use.
> ezXML (http://ezxml.sourceforge.net/) is also a solution. It's smaller
> and simpler than libxml.

For licensing and "ease of use" reasons, I'd use expat, which can be
accessed via
"libbsdxml" (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=libbsdxml&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASE&format=html )

Basically for phk@ to incorporate GEOM at the level he wanted to in
FreeBSD, they brought expat lower into the base distribution meaning
it's probably a better choice for launchd(8) given the core-nature of
the daemon to the OS. 

libbsdxml means we've one less thing to fuss about in terms of packaging
and incorporating with the distribution.

> I think libxml2 is better choice. I'm not sure however if ezXML won't
> perform better because its smaller. What do you think about this? Also
> do you know if the lib should have BSD license in order to be included
> in the FreeBSD's base?

I should be available more this weekend, open source hacking is not a
possibility during the week, so I'll throw the Git repository and some
tests up saturday or sunday :)

> 
> Cheers,
> Tsvetomir
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: R. Tyler Ballance <tyler at monkeypox.org>
> To: Tsvetomir Dimitrov <tsurko at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Dave Zarzycki <zarzycki at apple.com>; Launchd-dev
> <launchd-dev at lists.macosforge.org>
> Sent: Monday, 22 September, 2008 15:30:50
> Subject: Re: [launchd-dev] launchd on freebsd
> 
> On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 05:16 -0700, Tsvetomir Dimitrov wrote:
> > Excellent news! Can I help with anything? As I've already said I'm a
> > beginner. Programming is my hobby and I've just started to work as
> > professional C programmer. So if you think I can be useful in some
> way
> > do not hesitate to write me!
> 
> Well, you don't necessarily have to go along with the direction I'm
> taking, but if you're on board, I could certainly use help and I think
> it would generally help the project if we started adding test coverage
> to launchd(8) by way of CUnit (http://cunit.sourceforge.net/), I'm a
> big
> fan of test-driven porting projects ;)
> 
> One thing I actually loathe is working with expat, and we will likely
> need a plist XML file parser. I'm not entirely certain on the FreeBSD
> project's views on the APSL, but I think one way or another CF-lite is
> out of the picture (especially if we aim to push this into FreeBSD
> base). If you're up for it, I think that'd be a great place to start. 
> 
> If you'd like I can push my Git repository to a public web server
> where
> we can both collaborate on the development of test cases. What I've
> done
> thus far is really not much more than reacquainting myself with
> launchd(8)'s code, it feels like home, even after all these years :)
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> -R. Tyler Ballance
> 
> > Best regards,
> > Tsvetomir
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: R. Tyler Ballance <tyler at monkeypox.org>
> > To: Dave Zarzycki <zarzycki at apple.com>
> > Cc: Tsvetomir Dimitrov <tsurko at yahoo.com>; Damien Sorresso
> > <dsorresso at apple.com>; Launchd-dev
> <launchd-dev at lists.macosforge.org>
> > Sent: Monday, 22 September, 2008 7:39:59
> > Subject: Re: [launchd-dev] launchd on freebsd
> > 
> > On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 18:03 -0700, Dave Zarzycki wrote:
> > > Tsvetomir,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Funny that you should ask. R. Tyler Ballance, the author of the
> > Googleted to 
> > > Summer of Code project, just emailed me about potentially reviving
> > the
> > > port. Hopefully our new launchd maintainer, Damien, can help you
> > both
> > > coordinate any porting activity.
> > 
> > (resending since the mailing list ate my first version)
> > 
> > I'd like to point out that all work on the previous port of mine is
> > likely a total wash as it was before zarzycki@ made a large chunk of
> > changes for the version of launchd(8) for Leopard. 
> > 
> > As it stands now I'm working in a Git repository sitting on my
> FreeBSD
> > RELENG_6 machine simply working on getting components compiled or
> > #ifdef'd out such that they will compile on non-Apple systems. 
> > 
> > The approach I intend on taking this time around is to build some
> > CUnit
> > tests around some of the base levels of functionality before I move
> > onto
> > the more complicated mach-port-based process management and IPC
> > mechanisms. I also do not intend on building in any implicit
> > FreeBSD-isms, as I'd like to take launchd(8) over to my openSUSE
> > workstations in the future as well ;)
> > 
> > 
> > Consider any code you find of mine in the FreeBSD perforce
> repository
> > as
> > antique and testament to how much of a n00b I used to be ;)
> > 
> > > 
> > I'll keep the thread updated on any progress :)
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > -R. Tyler Ballance
> > > 
> > > Best of luck to you all,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > davez
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sep 21, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Kevin Van Vechten wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I'm not aware of any current activity surrounding that effort,
> but
> > > > it's something we'd like to see.  Have you checked the list
> > archives
> > > > to see where things left off? 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Sep 20, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Tsvetomir Dimitrov
> <tsurko at yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > There was a Google Summer of code project about porting
> launchd
> > on
> > > > > FreeBSD. Is this project still active? Have you got any
> > > > > information about it or any other similar? I will be very
> happy
> > to
> > > > > see launchd working on FreeBSD. Unfortunately I am still a
> > > > > beginner programmer, but I'll do my best to contribute in my
> > free
> > > > > time. 
> > > > > Thank you in advance!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Tsvetomir
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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