[launchd-dev] Yosemite not starting a system launch agent

[James Bucanek]

> Damien Sorresso <mailto:dsorresso at apple.com>
> July 22, 2015 at 6:19 PM
> James,
>
> Some replies inline...
>
> On 22 Jul, 2015, at 17:46, James Bucanek <subscriber at gloaming.com 
> <mailto:subscriber at gloaming.com>> wrote:
>> Damien,
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion, and apologies for the tardy reply; I just 
>> got buried under twenty other to-do items that were higher on the list.
>>
>> I tried removing the LimitLoadToSessionType entry from my agent's 
>> plist, but it doesn't make any difference. When trying to install it 
>> as a system-wide agent, the process still doesn't start.
>
> In launchd's lexicon, "system-wide agent" is a conflict of 
> terminology. System-wide things are, by definition, daemons. Agents 
> are things which run on a per-user basis (cf. launchd(8)). So the real 
> question is about the desired lifecycle of your job. Do you want it to 
> run when a user logs in and to go away when the user logs out? Or do 
> you want it to be available regardless of any user being logged in?
That's the problem; I don't know what to call them. It's an agent, but 
it's an agent for all users (/Library/LaunchAgents) to distinguish it 
for exclusively for an individual user (~/Library/LaunchAgents). And it 
should run in the context of the user's bootstrap, not just within the 
GUI login.
>> My reading of LimitLoadToSessionType would lead me to believe that 
>> it's applicable to my service, which *is* an agent. It runs as a 
>> regular user, and the docs would indicate that this property is just 
>> a hint to the load balancer on how to constrain its use of 
>> CPU/memory/IO. It doesn't make sense that it would keep the process 
>> from starting in the first place.
>
> Wow, no that's not at all what that key is for. Please file a bug 
> explaining how the documentation misled you into that impression so we 
> can make it clearer!
I think I got this confused with ProcessType. Both have a "Background" type.

I'll file a bug report on the docs, but one problem that I run into is 
that terms are often never defined. For example, the 
LimitLoadToSessionType section in man 5 launchd.plist describes it thusly:

     "LimitLoadToSessionType <string or array or strings>
      This configuration file only applies to sessions of the type(s) 
specified."

But the descriptions of what "type(s)" can be is never defined or 
explained in the man pages for launchd.plist, launchctl, or launchd. I'm 
sure the description of what LimitLoadToSessionType does is accurate, 
but I still left wondering what values are valid or what they mean. :)
>
> Session types are basically collections of certain kinds of jobs. The 
> "Aqua" session is all the jobs associated with a graphical login on 
> the console. By default, if your job is an agent, it is loaded into 
> the Aqua session. (That is, if no LimitLoadToSessionType key is present.)
>
> The Background session is a collection of jobs that can run on behalf 
> of a user even if that user is not logged in at the graphical console. 
> They might be doing things like performing Spotlight indexing on that 
> user's home directory even when that user isn't logged in for example.
What I want, and I think that's what I've configured in the .plist, is a 
per-user Agent running in the Background session, for all users. The 
.plist is placed in /Library/LaunchAgents and the LimitLoadToSessionType 
is set to Background. (See my earlier message. It has all the details.)
>
> So if you have a vanilla Terminal prompt and do a `launchctl load`, 
> your plist will attempt to load in the Aqua session. If that service 
> has LimitLoadToSessionType set to "Background", then that load will 
> fail because it's attempting to load in the Aqua session and your 
> service has expressed that it should only load in the Background session.
In my case, the 'launchctl load ...' command is being executed via 
NSTask launched from a helper running as root, itself launched from a 
privileged helper service installed via SMJobBless. I don't know if this 
puts launchctl in the context of Background session of the user or in 
the root System session.

James


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