Suggestion

Craig Treleaven ctreleaven at cogeco.ca
Tue May 28 14:56:40 PDT 2013



Please excuse typos--sent from my iPhone.

On 2013-05-28, at 5:35 PM, Chris Jones <jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On 28 May 2013, at 10:14 PM, Stephen Rasku <macports at srasku.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Chris Jones <jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> On 28 May 2013, at 08:12 PM, Jean-François Caron <jfcaron at phas.ubc.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> While download statistics might not be a good system, I do concur that MacPorts very much would benefit from having a "discovery" mechanism by which users find out about useful ports.  Searching is nice, but it's not discovery.  Some kind of "top ports" list (however implemented) would be useful, imho.
>>> 
>>> Personally, I fail to see how a 'top ports' list would tell me much. The ports i find essential are likely very different from others, so i don't see how using some sort of a list showing the most used ports would help me in any way in choosing new ones to install. Some ports likely have a low user base, but never less are critical to those that need them, such as more esoteric ports from the science section.
>>> 
>>> Maybe such a list might be of some limited interest to developers, so we know which ports are most used, and perhaps more usefully those without users, but beyond that i doubt such a list would tell us much or help users. What would help users i think would be to have a much better search/browsing interface, to allow them to browse available ports.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>> 
>> I think the discovery mechanism argument is valid.  The search mechanism only works if I know what I'm looking for.  I don't know what I don't know but if 90% of MacPorts users install a specific port I would check it out even if I wasn't searching for it in particular.  A better search interface would be an improvement too but I usually just install what I know I want.
> 
> I can see how for something that has a massive user base, such as the Apple 'App Store', a user based popularity poll would help to tell me something. I still maintain though that in general just because a lot of other users install something, does not mean i need to do the same, but if the statistics are large enough so you can start to discriminate within a specific category, it might be useful. This works for places like the App store, that has the massive user base needed, but i suspect MacPorts is no where near that so it really doesn't help.
> 
> I still think a better documentation system would help more, so given a few keywords a user can search macports to find what ports are available and provide what they need, is more useful to MacPorts than some popularity based polling system.
> 
> Chris 
> 
>> 
>> ...Stephen
> ______________________________

I'd like to know that a port has been successfully installed, recently.  IOW that it hasn't suffered bitrot!

Craig
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