[MacRuby-devel] MacRuby-devel Digest, Vol 10, Issue 35

[Brad Hutchins]

Understood.



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>   1. Threads and iPhone (Brad Hutchins)
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>   3. Re: Threads and iPhone (Laurent Sansonetti)
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> From: "Brad Hutchins" <oshybrid at gmail.com>
> Subject: [MacRuby-devel] Threads and iPhone
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> Will it be easier to implement and manage multithreaded apps with MacRuby?
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> And will MacRuby be eventually rolled into iphone Dev?  Or is this one of
> those sensitive Apple NDA iPhone issues?
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> From: "Vincent Isambart" <vincent.isambart at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MacRuby-devel] Threads and iPhone
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> > Will it be easier to implement and manage multithreaded apps with
> MacRuby?
> MacRuby's threads are exactly the same as Ruby 1.9. Nothing less nothing
> more.
> When you say "easier", if you mean easier than ObjC perhaps a little
> bit, but that's all.
>
> > And will MacRuby be eventually rolled into iphone Dev?  Or is this one of
> > those sensitive Apple NDA iPhone issues?
> I think Laurent would not be able to reply about this one, but it
> looks like you should not wait too much for an iPhone version of
> MacRuby.
> First, the iPhone is much slower than a Mac so MacRuby would be a
> little slow. An other problem is that autozone (the GC used in ObjC 2
> and MacRuby) does not seem to have an ARM version. Of course it's
> probably doable (and maybe someone in Apple is working on it, I have
> no idea) but well for the time being I would not count on it.
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> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:36:15 -0800
> From: Laurent Sansonetti <lsansonetti at apple.com>
> Subject: Re: [MacRuby-devel] Threads and iPhone
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> On Dec 27, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Vincent Isambart wrote:
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> >> Will it be easier to implement and manage multithreaded apps with
> >> MacRuby?
> > MacRuby's threads are exactly the same as Ruby 1.9. Nothing less
> > nothing more.
> > When you say "easier", if you mean easier than ObjC perhaps a little
> > bit, but that's all.
>
> That's true, MacRuby trunk uses YARV, and its thread model is simple,
> it maps every Ruby thread as a POSIX thread but still maintain a
> global lock around them.
>
> However, in the next version of MacRuby (0.5) this will significantly
> change. Stay tuned for more information regarding 0.5, in the next few
> days.
>
> >> And will MacRuby be eventually rolled into iphone Dev?  Or is this
> >> one of
> >> those sensitive Apple NDA iPhone issues?
> > I think Laurent would not be able to reply about this one, but it
> > looks like you should not wait too much for an iPhone version of
> > MacRuby.
> > First, the iPhone is much slower than a Mac so MacRuby would be a
> > little slow. An other problem is that autozone (the GC used in ObjC 2
> > and MacRuby) does not seem to have an ARM version. Of course it's
> > probably doable (and maybe someone in Apple is working on it, I have
> > no idea) but well for the time being I would not count on it.
>
> The iPhone cannot be discussed on this list. However, as Vincent
> stated, there are some technical restrictions that prevent MacRuby to
> fully work on the iPhone, today. But tomorrow is another day :-)
>
> Laurent
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