[MacRuby-devel] 0.3 available for testing

[Richard Kilmer]

On Sep 8, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

> Laurent Sansonetti wrote:
>> Good point, I think we both have the same problem here :) Both Java
>> and Cocoa APIs are in general too verbose and do not integrate well  
>> in
>> the Ruby world, and this scares many rubyists.
>
> At least you're lucky people don't loathe the Cocoa APIs as much as  
> they
> tend to loathe Java APIs :). But I think the eventual "ideal" in both
> cases would leave little loathing, verbosity, or confusion for users.
>
>> I personally do not see a problem if we discuss API design here. I
>> think it's a great idea. We can't really discuss everything, because
>> it would take too much time, but we can share our API designs, or at
>> least help each other.
>
> I'd be more than happy to pull some sample code from each of the 5 (6?
> 7?) JRuby/Swing frameworks and offer them up (with my own comments and
> opinions) for discussion and critique. Others familiar with other
> backends might do the same. Does that seem reasonable?

That sounds good to me.  I can also go over the thinking process for  
HotCocoa
if that helps.  I spent time not just on the way the API looks to the  
end
developer building apps with it, but how the mappings are created to
facilitate their ability to be read easily and extended.

>
>
> - Charlie
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