[MacRuby-devel] A Future for MacRuby

isaac kearse isaackearse at gmail.com
Thu Dec 22 17:47:08 PST 2011

Hi Jordan,

Are you aware that HotCocoa is being actively developed again?

There is a good overview of contributions over time here:


On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh at apple.com> wrote:
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 12:43 AM, David Frantz wrote:
> As to nibs well the whole thing is just very obtuse and frustrating to me.
>  Mind you my background is not the same as many here, being focused on
> industrial automation, but if find the use of nibs and Interface builder to
> be very taxing and not very object Oriented.  MacRuby would likely generate
> a lot more interest if they moved away from the interface builder approach
> to GUI development.    I know this will result in many arrows coming my way,
> but really folks lets be objective here IB is a very strange departure from
> most GUI development systems.
> That was essentially the goal of the HotCocoa project, but it seems that
> very few folks shared your concerns or your desire for XIB-less UI
> development since outside contributions (once Rich moved on to other things)
> have been extremely minimal.
> - Jordan
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