[MacRuby-devel] MacRuby-devel Digest, Vol 35, Issue 3

Sun Jan 2 18:18:00 PST 2011

"*However, please be aware that as of today, it is not possible to submit,
on the AppStore (the iOS AppStore), an application that has been written
using MacRuby :-(.*"

. . . Yet . . .

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:31 PM,
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>   1. Re: Hotcocoa or not? (Thibault Martin-Lagardette)
>   2. Re: Hotcocoa or not? (Buddy Lindsey, Jr.)
>   3. Re: Hotcocoa or not? (Henry Maddocks)
>   4. Re: Hotcocoa or not? (Benjamin Almeida)
>   5. Re: Hotcocoa or not? (Jordan K. Hubbard)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:03:02 +0100
> From: Thibault Martin-Lagardette <thibault.ml at gmail.com>
> To: "MacRuby development discussions."
>        <macruby-devel at lists.macosforge.org>
> Subject: Re: [MacRuby-devel] Hotcocoa or not?
> Message-ID: <80816067-ED7B-4CFE-BC2F-26E3CE52D2C1 at gmail.com>
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> Hi Buddy,
>
> I would advise to use the "regular" way, aka using Xcode, Interface Builder
> etc.
> I could think of two reasons for that:
> 1/ HotCocoa is, as far as I know, not maintained anymore
> 2/ By using Interface Builder, you'll learn more about writing Cocoa apps,
> wether it is in MacRuby or Objective-C :-)
>
> However, please be aware that as of today, it is not possible to submit, on
> the AppStore (the iOS AppStore), an application that has been written using
> MacRuby :-(.
> Sincerely,
> --
> Thibault Martin-Lagardette
>
>
>
> On Jan 1, 2011, at 05:09, Buddy Lindsey, Jr. wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > I am just starting with MacRuby and am kind of confused. There seems to
> be 2 ways to do GUI development. Hotcocoa or Pure Cocoa API. My confusion is
> on which one is best I like hotcocoa because it seems fairly straight
> forward on doing GUI stuff, the little I have looked at it, but seems to
> rely on Cocoa API where there aren't any mappings. However, I can use
> interface builder and xcode more easily going with the pure cocoa api. I
> also am very confused when doing anything with interface builder so I am
> leaning toward hotcocoa.
> >
> > As a note on my background. I just got my first mac in July and started
> doing anything with ruby [on rails] in August. I come from a web development
> background so desktop apps are a bit new to me.
> >
> > Anyone have any advice, comments, and or words of wisdom all they way
> around? My goals is to make a fairly simple app I can put into the AppStore.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Buddy
> >
> > ---
> > Buddy Lindsey
> > http://www.buddylindsey.com
> > http://www.twitter.com/buddylindsey
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:22:02 -0600
> From: "Buddy Lindsey, Jr." <percent20 at gmail.com>
> To: "MacRuby development discussions."
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> Subject: Re: [MacRuby-devel] Hotcocoa or not?
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> Ahh, okay. I think i'll proceed with doing it the regular way.
>
> I was actually hoping to submit to the Mac AppStore. I hope they allow on
> there if it is a self contained app.
>
> Thanks for the reply
> Buddy
>
> ---
> Buddy Lindsey
> http://www.buddylindsey.com
> http://www.twitter.com/buddylindsey
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Thibault Martin-Lagardette <thibault.ml@
> gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Buddy,
> >
> > I would advise to use the "regular" way, aka using Xcode, Interface
> Builder
> > etc.
> > I could think of two reasons for that:
> > 1/ HotCocoa is, as far as I know, not maintained anymore
> > 2/ By using Interface Builder, you'll learn more about writing Cocoa
> apps,
> > wether it is in MacRuby or Objective-C :-)
> >
> > However, please be aware that as of today, it is not possible to submit,
> on
> > the AppStore (the iOS AppStore), an application that has been written
> using
> > MacRuby :-(.
> > Sincerely,
> > --
> > Thibault Martin-Lagardette
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 1, 2011, at 05:09, Buddy Lindsey, Jr. wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I am just starting with MacRuby and am kind of confused. There seems to
> be
> > 2 ways to do GUI development. Hotcocoa or Pure Cocoa API. My confusion is
> on
> > which one is best I like hotcocoa because it seems fairly straight
> forward
> > on doing GUI stuff, the little I have looked at it, but seems to rely on
> > Cocoa API where there aren't any mappings. However, I can use interface
> > builder and xcode more easily going with the pure cocoa api. I also am
> very
> > confused when doing anything with interface builder so I am leaning
> toward
> > hotcocoa.
> >
> > As a note on my background. I just got my first mac in July and started
> > doing anything with ruby [on rails] in August. I come from a web
> development
> > background so desktop apps are a bit new to me.
> >
> > Anyone have any advice, comments, and or words of wisdom all they way
> > around? My goals is to make a fairly simple app I can put into the
> AppStore.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Buddy
> >
> > ---
> > Buddy Lindsey
> > http://www.buddylindsey.com
> > http://www.twitter.com/buddylindsey
> > _______________________________________________
> > MacRuby-devel mailing list
> > MacRuby-devel at lists.macosforge.org
> > http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:55:51 +1300
> From: Henry Maddocks <henry.maddocks at gmail.com>
> To: "MacRuby development discussions."
>        <macruby-devel at lists.macosforge.org>
> Subject: Re: [MacRuby-devel] Hotcocoa or not?
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>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 3/01/2011, at 5:03 AM, Thibault Martin-Lagardette <thibault.ml@
> gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > However, please be aware that as of today, it is not possible to submit,
> on the AppStore (the iOS AppStore), an application that has been written
> using MacRuby :-(.
>
> Why not? What information do you have?
>
> Henry
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:01:37 +0100
> From: Benjamin Almeida <benjamin.q.almeida at gmail.com>
> To: "MacRuby development discussions."
>        <macruby-devel at lists.macosforge.org>
> Subject: Re: [MacRuby-devel] Hotcocoa or not?
> Message-ID: <4BDFAAFF-7626-441E-BA2F-A843B1EDABD2 at gmail.com>
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> Ios== iphone &ipad
> Reasons are the missing garbage collector for now
>
> Cheers
> ben
>
> On 2 Jan 2011, at 21:55, Henry Maddocks <henry.maddocks at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On 3/01/2011, at 5:03 AM, Thibault Martin-Lagardette <thibault.ml@
> gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> However, please be aware that as of today, it is not possible to submit,
> on the AppStore (the iOS AppStore), an application that has been written
> using MacRuby :-(.
> >
> > Why not? What information do you have?
> >
> > Henry
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:30:03 -0800
> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh at apple.com>
> To: "MacRuby development discussions."
>        <macruby-devel at lists.macosforge.org>
> Subject: Re: [MacRuby-devel] Hotcocoa or not?
> Message-ID: <6106CCFA-5EB8-4320-B8BE-C5CF98DEEDF6 at apple.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>
> On Jan 2, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Henry Maddocks wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On 3/01/2011, at 5:03 AM, Thibault Martin-Lagardette <thibault.ml@
> gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> However, please be aware that as of today, it is not possible to submit,
> on the AppStore (the iOS AppStore), an application that has been written
> using MacRuby :-(.
> >
> > Why not? What information do you have?
>
> I think Thibault may have been a little too terse in his statement, leaving
> it ambiguous as to why.  This is not a question of developer agreements
> (which have been broadened since the original clause 3.3.1 was drafted) so
> much as a technology issue.  MacRuby does not support ARM right now, and
> even if it did, UIKit is not GC-safe, so you wouldn't be able to do any UI
> in MacRuby - pretty pointless!
>
> - Jordan
>
>
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