[MacRuby-devel] I don't normally plug the mailing list, but when I do it's for gemaholics

[Mark Rada]

Except for the horrendous performance hit with MacRuby, I think more gems is generally a better thing.

I wouldn't say HotCocoa is dead, though as Josh mentioned, I think its best uses have changed---there is still a lot of useful stuff in HotCocoa and the project is still be maintained (more or less).

At a high level, I think a lot of MacRuby gems would probably fit with what HotCocoa was trying to do (simplify the initialization and configuration of Cocoa objects), but at a technical level adding more mini-languages is probably not the best idea. 

Though, I have been able to move most of one of my other MacRuby gems into HotCocoa as a mapping, it was an easy fit since they operated similarly, and I was able to shed some complexity. I suspect that at least mynu could be mirrored in HotCocoa as well since there are already some similarities in how HotCocoa maps NSMenu.

That is just my two cents, though.



Mark Rada
mrada at marketcircle.com



On 2011-06-20, at 2:16 AM, Robert Lowe wrote:

> Ah, I understand.
> 
> I think rubygems is still the best source:
> 
> Try searching for `macruby`:
> 
> https://rubygems.org/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&query=macruby
> 
> (For instance: mac_bacon is an awesome testing framework I just found, it even supports loading nib files!)
> 
> Regards,
> - Rob
> 
> On 2011-06-20, at 1:58 AM, Joshua Ballanco wrote:
> 
>> I was thinking more in the vein of HotCocoa as a library full of Cocoa conveniences for MacRuby rather than HotCocoa as an Xcode replacement for app development. I feel like Rich originally started HotCocoa figuring it would replace Xcode, but I think that as time has progressed that is maybe a less needed goal that was originally thought?
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I have not had enough time to be as involved in HotCocoa as I would have liked. There is certainly nothing wrong with keeping these as independent gems. I do, however, think it might be useful to collect MacRuby specific gems (especially those that make app development easier) in a central list somewhere…
>> 
>> - Josh
>> 
>> On Sunday, June 19, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Robert Lowe wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> I have not considered it. I think most developers are moving towards using MacRuby and Xcode 4.
>>> 
>>> I don't see the need, maybe I'm misinformed. You can always just require them as needed.
>>> 
>>> Can you think of a use case for it?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> - Rob
>>> 
>>> On 2011-06-19, at 7:10 PM, Joshua Ballanco wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Very cool stuff, Rob!
>>>> 
>>>> Have you considered potentially merging Hotkeys and mynu into HotCocoa?
>>>> 
>>>> - Josh
>>>> 
>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Robert Lowe wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope you enjoy em! All of these are on rubygems now:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wrapping NSMXL (Credit to Wilson Lee / kourge): 
>>>>> https://github.com/RobertLowe/ayril
>>>>> 
>>>>> Global Hotkeys: 
>>>>> https://github.com/RobertLowe/hotkeys
>>>>> 
>>>>> Systembar Menu DSL: 
>>>>> https://github.com/RobertLowe/mynu
>>>>> 
>>>>> It should be noted that these all work fine from inside xcode 4 too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you find any edge cases let me know, I'll gladly take care of them. I'm still new to the macruby community / cocoa.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Transmission over,
>>>>> - Rob
>>>>> 
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