[MacRuby-devel] hotcocoa virus

Thu Mar 31 11:18:56 PDT 2011

HotCocoa development has been happening independently of MacRuby for a while
now. Any remaining references in the code or on the website are bugs (or, in
the case of the website, out-of-date pages). It would be nice to clean up
some of these references, but that's a rather low-priority task at the
moment. (Of course, pull requests are more than welcome ;-).

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gary Weaver <gary.weaver at duke.edu> wrote:

>  I'm not the HotCocoa authority, but in
> http://www.macruby.org/hotcocoa/getting_started.html it states:
>
> "HotCocoa is part of the MacRuby <http://www.macruby.org> distribution
> which will ship with figure versions of OS X."
>
> (I think it is supposed to be "future" not "figure", btw.)
>
> But, according the Rich's readme:
>
> https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa
>
> "HotCocoa used to be included in MacRuby but is now managed as a separate
> gem. This will allow HotCocoa to accept contributions and evolve more
> quickly."
>
> The link on that page to example source for MacRuby is broken btw:
> http://svn.macosforge.org/repository/ruby/MacRuby/trunk/sample-macruby
>
> The wiki on HotCocoa which is the most up-to-date source for info, I think,
> is here:
> http://www.macruby.org/trac/wiki/HotCocoa
>
> And the versions listed on
> http://www.macruby.org/trac/wiki/HotCocoaResources are currently:
>
>    -  http://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa/network<http://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa/network>(Network Graph)
>
>
>    -  http://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa<http://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa>(Rich Kilmer)
>
>
>    -  http://github.com/dj2/hotcocoa/ <http://github.com/dj2/hotcocoa/>(Dan Sinclair)
>
> Somehow, I thought the official version from somewhere on the site (maybe
> not the wiki) used to point to: https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa but
> I could only find those links in my recent perusal of the macruby.org and
> macruby wiki.
>
> Maybe it would be good if someone eventually created an official
> hotcocoa/hotcocoa repo in GitHub (especially now that macruby/macruby is
> there).
>
> Also, there are still references to HotCocoa in MacRuby (latest from
> GitHub):
>
> MacRuby (master)]$ grep -r HotCocoa *
> instruby.rb:      when 'hotcocoa', 'rb_nibtool'
> misc/release/MacRuby.pmdoc/01macruby-contents.xml: ....
> rakelib/builder/options.rb:  $stderr.puts "The 'build_as_embeddable' build
> configuration has been removed because it is no longer necessary. To package
> a full version of MacRuby inside your application, please use `macrake
> deploy` for HotCocoa apps and the `Embed MacRuby` target for Xcode apps."
> sample-macruby/About MacRuby Examples.rtf:\b HotCocoa
> sample-macruby/About MacRuby Examples.rtf:\b0  directory contains examples
> for the MacRuby's HotCocoa\
> sample-macruby/Scripts/growl/hotcocoa_growl.rb:require 'hotcocoa'
> sample-macruby/Scripts/growl/hotcocoa_growl.rb:  include HotCocoa
> sample-macruby/Scripts/growl/hotcocoa_sample.rb:require 'hotcocoa_growl'
> test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/mapper_test.rb:require 'hotcocoa'
> test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/mapper_test.rb:  include HotCocoa::Mappings
> test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/mappings_test.rb:require 'hotcocoa'
> test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/mappings_test.rb:  include HotCocoa
> test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/object_ext_test.rb:require 'hotcocoa'
> test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/object_ext_test.rb:    assert_equal
> HotCocoa,           Object.full_const_get("HotCocoa")
> test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/object_ext_test.rb:    assert_equal
> HotCocoa::Mappings, Object.full_const_get("HotCocoa::Mappings")
> test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/plist_test.rb:require 'hotcocoa'
> test-macruby/cases/hotcocoa/plist_test.rb:  include HotCocoa
>
>
>
> On 3/31/11 12:59 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
>
> Ok, thanks a lot, Gary: I will try them.
>
> So no "official" repository is going to be put up ?
>
> Enzo
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Gary Weaver <gary.weaver at duke.edu> wrote:
>
>>  Enzo,
>>
>> What I meant is that there are various versions of HotCocoa on GitHub. You
>> might want to try someone's repo that was updated more recently. The
>> "official"/original version ( https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa ) is
>> probably the one you are using, but you can find a more recent one with
>> patches, etc. by looking at its network in GitHub:
>> https://github.com/richkilmer/hotcocoa/network
>>
>> for example, some more recent versions at time of writing are:
>> https://github.com/gmanley/hotcocoa
>> https://github.com/jamis/hotcocoa
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/30/11 5:32 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
>>
>> Gary,
>> "Virus" was joke of course, however I changed the name on gist.
>> I doubt it is a hotcocoa issue, but as soon as I have some time will try
>> to replicate it with an IB version.
>>
>>  What do you mean by "where you got it" ?  The code is mine, I was trying
>> to do something along the lines of this
>> http://www.nongnu.org/gstutorial/en/ch13s04.html.
>>
>>
>>  By the way, do you know where can I find a working drag&drop macruby
>> example ?
>>
>>  Enzo
>>
>>  On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Gary Weaver <gary.weaver at duke.edu>wrote:
>>
>>>  Enzo,
>>>
>>> It might be a translation issue, but I wouldn't call that a virus (it
>>> doesn't replicate, it is just something that freezes your computer). I
>>> wouldn't call it "Virus" in the gist either, if I were you.
>>>
>>> If it is a bug in HotCocoa, than it may be a bug (or at least undesired
>>> functionality if it freezes your Mac) in MacRuby or OS X, so you might want
>>> to dig deeper and provide more info on version (and where you got it, since
>>> it is in various places in GitHub) of HotCocoa.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>  Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/29/11 5:27 PM, Vincenzo Piombo wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>  I was trying to add drag & drop capabilities to a hotcocoa program and
>>> stumbled into a problem that really puzzles me: a macruby program can freeze
>>> your mac !
>>>
>>>  I uploaded the buggy fragment here: https://gist.github.com/893300
>>>
>>>  Don't run it unless you are prepared to reboot your machine the hard
>>> way, don't even "Force quit" works.
>>> In the instructions I say to launch it twice, but every drag & drop with
>>> any app  after the crash freezes the app.
>>>
>>>
>>>  I'm using macruby 0.9, tried 0.10 but hotcocoa does not work with it
>>> (but this is another story !)
>>>
>>>  Hope someone can tell me if I did something wrong or found a bug
>>> somewhere.
>>>
>>>  Enzp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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