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Hello Chris,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Chris Inacio schreef op 22/04/15 om
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<div dir="ltr">I can't respond to Dr. Rousseau directly for list
subscription reasons, so sorry about screwing up the thread a
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<div>I would be impressed if "gpg2 --card-status" didn't just
hang. I understand that GPG has its own card server program
and wants exclusive access to the Yubikey. GPG2 works on RARE
occasion and I can't figure out the why's and when's even
though I've tried.</div>
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<div>But from reading various looks at Apple's current smartcard
service, it seems like it doesn't get a lot of love. I assume
that Apple hasn't really dedicated a significant number of
engineers to this. And from reading your blog, Dr. Rousseau,
it doesn't feel like you believe in Apple's roadmap, at least
from the parts that are visible.</div>
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From my POV of some years in a SmartCardServices-dependent project
(on OSX, at least, we support 2 other platforms), I can tell you
that Apple effectively doesn't care one damn bit. After our
years-long attempts at getting the slightest bit of information
about the largely invisible roadmap, we got.. zero response.. Even
mentioning the 11 million potential users didn't get their
attention.. My impression: Apple, being a US company, needs to
appear "patriotic" and "supporting the troops" etc.. so they cannot
help but support CAC cards, but otherwise, if you have a business
model based on anything smart-card related involving Apple Inc.. RUN
LIKE HELL!<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Chris
Inacio <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div dir="ltr">Hello all,
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<div>I'm mostly a frustrated smartcard user at this point,
but I play the role of developer (or development
manager) in my day job. So I have a combination of Mac
OS X 10.10, Centrify (with its smartcard additions),
PIV/CAC type smart cards, a Yubikey NEO, and would like
it if GnuPG actually worked.</div>
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<div>Mostly, the CAC/PIV type smartcards actually work (I
believe really related to the Centrify, but who knows,
really…) but the YubiKey + GnuPG just do NOT work
reliably (if at all.)</div>
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<div>Strangely, it seems like pcsctest can always find the
card readers / devices attached to my machine reliably;
but I do occasionally run into random bugs of things
that simply don't work. And many of my colleagues with
Mac's often have numerous problems with smartcards
operating correctly. (I personally have 3 smartcards,
not including the Yubikey NEO.) In generally, various
colleagues use some combination of: the opensource
tokend updates, Centrify, and Thursby PKard. But all
solutions seem to have bugs / issues filed with Apple.</div>
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<div>My question is, to someone who hopefully has thought
about this a lot more than I have looked into it: how
many man months would it be to start over? Take an
up-to-date drop of PCSC from open source and do a new
cleanroom port to Mac possibly?</div>
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<div>Second question: would people even want that?</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Chris Inacio</div>
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