<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">On Nov 25, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Woloszyn, Stephan <<a href="mailto:Stephan.Woloszyn@safenet-inc.com">Stephan.Woloszyn@safenet-inc.com</a>> wrote:<div><blockquote type="cite"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;">Hello,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><o:p style="font-size: 12px;"><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica"> </font></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 12px;">My main question is: can a tokend be loaded into memory without a PCSC device?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><o:p style="font-size: 12px;"><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica"> </font></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 12px;">For reference I found a similar discussion list at <a href="http://lists.apple.com/archives/apple-cdsa/2009/Jul/msg00038.html">http://lists.apple.com/archives/apple-cdsa/2009/Jul/msg00038.html</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 12px;">It mentions a Soft Token concept that sounds promising.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><o:p style="font-size: 12px;"><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica"> </font></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 12px;">So, is there an existing Soft Token solution that I can re-use?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 12px;">Or, is Soft Token just a concept that needs custom development (if so how can it be done)?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><o:p style="font-size: 12px;"><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica"> </font></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 12px;">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 12px;">Steve</span></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Steve,</div><div><br></div><div>I followed up with you offline on this recently, but wanted to post some followup here for the rest of the community….</div><div><br></div><div><div>In short, The Smart Card Services environment is designed to leverage the following:</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span> IOKit event -> securityd -> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>pcscd -> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Reader Driver (CCID Class driver handles most readers) </div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>*Tokend modules loaded for probing and handling Cards after a "Card Insertion” event</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- The <b>Tokend</b> responding with highest ‘score’ wins and remains resident</div><div><br></div><div>When <b><i>securityd</i></b> launches <b><i>pcscd</i></b>, the <b><i>pcscd</i></b> will remain under the control of securityd meaning that after two minutes, if there is no successful identification of the reader / card insertion event then <b><i>pcscd</i></b> is automatically killed by <b><i>securityd.</i></b></div><div><br></div><div>To support scenarios other than a standard CCID Class reader with a Smart Card / Token with a corresponding Tokend module, would indeed require your own approach. You have all kinds of ways you could approach this, but all of them would be unsupported by Apple Inc. directly. </div></div><div><br></div><div>Keep in mind that a Tokend can communicate using whatever means or protocol it deems necessary.</div><div><br></div><div><div apple-content-edited="true">
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