[Xquartz-dev] 2.3.2-rc4 full screen oddities
Viv Kendon
V.Kendon at leeds.ac.uk
Sun Dec 21 15:54:37 PST 2008
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
> On Dec 20, 2008, at 13:41, Viv Kendon wrote:
>
>> * now...full screen mode does NOT play nicely with spaces! I'm currently in
>> full screen mode with the two X11 windows I had open on Space 3, an Aqua
>> background, no menu bar, and with the full-screen desktop background and
>> the X11 app I had open in Space 6 "lost" in Space 6 with no way to switch
>> to it!
>
> Well, you'd have to switch to space 6...
Exactly...only once I'm in full screen I can't find a way to
do that: is there something I'm missing? If I go to screen
6 first then cmd-opt-a into full screen, well, things just
get worse, with the effects mentioned below. In the Spaces
preferences I have unchecked the option to have Spaces
switch to a screen with active windows when selecting an
app, but this sort of switching still happens, for instance
when calling up the X11 preferences window when in a Space
with X11 windows but not the one X11 first opened a window
in. So I moved the preferences window over to Space 6 from
Space 3, and that seemed to confuse both Spaces and X11 when
I selected full screen mode.
>> I can also get the full screen desktop background interleaved with the X11
>> windows on first switching, I think others have reported that.
>
> Nope, this is the first I've heard about it... open a bug report.
I'll do some more testing to find a way to reproduce it
reliably. I'm about to go offline for a week, so I can't
report until I'm back.
>> And I just got the X11 desktop by itself, where in virtual spaces I don't
>> know, but maybe on top of the X11 app that was in space 6.
>
> You're probably in a space with no X11 client. The windows are bound to a
> particular Space.
>
>> (How did I get into this state in the first place? well, I was trying to
>> test the cmd-opt-a thing in another app, and RetroOffice (X11 build of
>> NeoOffice) was open on Space 6...it's an app bundle so it is natural to
>> start it in a different space. and yes, it does react to cmd-opt-a, by
>> doing "select all".)
>
> Well if it's an X11 application with an app bundle... then it's either got
> its own X11 server or its using ours... which is the case?
It uses xquartz, it doesn't bundle its own:
http://neowiki.neooffice.org/index.php/RetroOffice
>> OK, I know that's not how full screen is designed to be used :-) I think
>> I'll have to find your instructions for running two copies of X11, one for
>> full-screen and one rootless...
>
>> Finally, something also appears to have changed with the cut and paste in
>> relation to RetroOffice, I can't find a combination of pasteboard options
>> that allows the ctr-c and ctl-v that should work within the app to function
>> properly.
>
> How so?
ctl-c on a selection followed by ctl-v pastes something
previously copied from elsewhere in X11 land, or whatever
cmd-c last copied. I have the X11 preferences window open
and the only pasteboard option I have checked is "enable
syncing. So RetroOffice is not copying (or cutting) into
the buffer it then pastes from. But I'll have to get back
to you after I've had a chance to revert to the previous
RetroOffice version and test in a more vanilla account, log
out, reboot, etc., etc..
-- Viv
>> There's a thread around the end of October where it was first discussed,
>> that work around no longer appears to work (unselect both "update
>> Pasteboard when CLIPBOARD" and "Update CLIPBOARD when Pastboard").
>
> If you do that, then we don't ever touch CLIPBOARD, so if your application
> isn't working, it's either not using CLIPBOARD or it's just broken outside of
> us.
>
>> But I installed a RetroOffice update at the same time, so I need to do
>> considerably more checking and come back with details. I think it works OK
>> with fvwm as the window manager, but not with quartz-wm.
>
> Well that doesn't make sense at all since quartz-wm doesn't do anything with
> CLIPBOARD on our X11.app...
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Dr Viv Kendon http://quantum.leeds.ac.uk/~viv
tel: +44 113 343 4864 Physics and Astronomy
Quantum Information Group University of Leeds
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