December 2008 - Xquartz-dev - lists.macosforge.org

Re: [Xquartz-dev] Xquartz-dev Digest, Vol 14, Issue 15
by Mark Buckingham 08 Dec '08

08 Dec '08

> On Dec 7, 2008, at 3:24 PM, Brian Gernhardt wrote: > On Dec 6, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Mark Buckingham wrote: > >> Tablet support for Inkscape & Gimp seems to be working well in >> 2.3.2_rc2. In 2.3.1, my wacom tablet was visible to the gimp, but >> would not do anything but move the pointer and occasionally freeze >> the gimp entirely. Now, it's able to draw well with pressure >> support. > > Were you using the official Inkscape Mac binary, or did you build your > own? > > ~~ Brian G The official binary doesn't work right the tablet, so I followed the instructions here: http://www.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/CompilingMacOsX I followed the section titled "Compiling Inkscape with X11, using MacPorts [Recommended Method]. I did all of this after installing the updated xquartz.

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Re: [Xquartz-dev] X11 2.3.1 on Leopard
by Glenn Eychaner 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

> On Dec 6, 2008, at 07:44, Glenn Eychaner wrote: >> I am SURE it is version 2.3.1 of X11; I downloaded it and installed >> it myself (twice!), and checked the version several times. The >> error occurs on several different machines. I will check 2.3.2 >> next opportunity. > > Well the crash reports you sent me were for 2.2.1. You're right, they do seem to claim to be for 2.2.1. Odd. > What does X11->About X11 say? Xquartz 2.3.1, X server 1.4.2apple17 > What is output when you run this command at the command line: > > /usr/X11/bin/X -version X.org 7.3 X server 1.4.2apple17 Build 20080905 I also checked the process list, and made sure that the process command lines looked right (and that they weren't running an old opy that had accidentally gotten stashed somewhere on the machine). I totally cannot explain what's going on with our recently-built machines. Is it possible that the 2.3.1 installer is doing some kind of version checking and isn't overwriting all the files it should be after a 10.5.5 combo update? (Yes, the 2.3.1 installer is run after the combo update.) -G. -- Glenn Eychaner (geychaner(a)lco.cl) Telescope Systems Programmer, Las Campanas Observatory

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Inkscape & Gimp working & tablets working in 2.3.2_rc2
by Mark Buckingham 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

Just thought you would like to know... Tablet support for Inkscape & Gimp seems to be working well in 2.3.2_rc2. In 2.3.1, my wacom tablet was visible to the gimp, but would not do anything but move the pointer and occasionally freeze the gimp entirely. Now, it's able to draw well with pressure support. Thanks.

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Re: [Xquartz-dev] X11 2.3.x on Leopard
by Glenn Eychaner 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

On Dec 6, 2008, at 12:00 PM, xquartz-dev-request(a)lists.macosforge.org wrote: > Subject: Re: [Xquartz-dev] X11 2.3.1 on Leopard > > Sorry, what version of Leopard again. This sounds like an old tty > driver bug that hit Terminal.app too, but it was fixed in a SU. Leopard 10.5.5. I have attached another series of dumps from X11 2.3.0, showing similar behavior amongst the Xterms and XGterms. The sequence of events: 1) Launch X11 by launching an Xterm (or XGterm) from a Terminal. 2) Launch a number of additional Xterms (or XGterms) from the Applications menu 3) Type in the original Xterm. 4) Start closing the new ones. The original will hang, and eventually die. 5) At this point, it's all downhill. While writing this, my download of 2.3.2rc2 finished, and I installed it. I have NOT been able to reproduce the bug in 2.3.2rc2, despite repeated attempts. When do you estimate a 2.3.2 release? -G. -- Glenn Eychaner (geychaner(a)lco.cl) Telescope Systems Programmer, Las Campanas Observatory

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Re: [Xquartz-dev] X11 2.3.1 on Leopard
by Glenn Eychaner 06 Dec '08

06 Dec '08

On Dec 6, 2008, at 12:00 PM, xquartz-dev-request(a)lists.macosforge.org wrote: > Sorry, what version of Leopard again. This sounds like an old tty > driver bug that hit Terminal.app too, but it was fixed in a SU. Leopard 10.5.5, with X11 2.3.1. > It's 10.5.5, but that's a very old version of X11 (2.2.1 [not 2.3.1 > which the subject suggests]). You should upgrade to 2.3.2_rc2. I am SURE it is version 2.3.1 of X11; I downloaded it and installed it myself (twice!), and checked the version several times. The error occurs on several different machines. I will check 2.3.2 next opportunity. -G. -- Glenn Eychaner (geychaner(a)lco.cl) Telescope Systems Programmer, Las Campanas Observatory

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Re: [Xquartz-dev] X11 2.3.1 on Leopard
by Glenn Eychaner 06 Dec '08

06 Dec '08

On Dec 5, 2008, at 7:20 PM, xquartz-dev-request(a)lists.macosforge.org wrote: > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:46:46 -0800 > From: Jeremy Huddleston <jeremyhu(a)apple.com> > Subject: Re: [Xquartz-dev] X11 2.3.1 on Leopard upgraded from Tiger > > On Dec 5, 2008, at 07:16, Glenn Eychaner wrote: > >> We're having a bunch of problems with the X11 2.3.1 package. >> >> 1) In the Customize Applications panel, the "Command" and "Name" >> titles are reversed. > > Wow, I can't believe nobody noticed that before. It's fixed now in > git. > >> 2) Frequently, the Applications menu stops being able to launch >> Xterms. > > Explain what you mean by this? Is there anything useful in > system.log? Here is an exact sequence of events: 1) Open X11 by starting an xgterm (or xterm). 2) Open and close some windows (in our case, xterms, cxgterms, and SAO DS9) using the Applications menu. 3) Go back to the original xgterm. Sometimes, it will be hung (no keyboard input, and messages in the Terminal it was started from). 4) Once it is hung, try to close it repeatedly with Cmd-W. It won't...at first. 5) Open some more windows. 6) Try again to close that original Xterm. Eventually, it will close. 7) Once it does, try to open another xterm. It won't. 8) Try to quit X11. Get a spinning beachball. 9) Force-quit X11, usually twice. > I don't see anything that would show a hang of X11 there. Do you have > a trace? Two crash instances (The Terminal output from the first xgterm, the system log, and the crash dump) are attached, in a zipped archive. -G, -- Glenn Eychaner (geychaner(a)lco.cl) Telescope Systems Programmer, Las Campanas Observatory

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some more "white rectangle" behaviour data
by Cameron Simpson 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

I know the white rectangle issue is not slated for 2.3.2; this is just some more data to help characterise the issue. My GF is running 2.3.1 in rootless mode using icewm. If she leaves her machine she uses fast user switching to go to the login window. On return there are large while rectangles positioned where some former apps used to be. They behave like the X11 root window; her X11 root window context menus function in these areas. Restarting the window manager gets rid of most of these white rectangles; the ones that remain appear (loosely) to be associated with things like the mozilla/seamonkey URL bar and the URL completion drop down etc. I am speculating that these are the window frames used by the WM for reparenting (in the case of apps) and merely "withdrawn" windows in the case of the ones that look like the location bar drop down. Perhaps half the time the "white window" is not white, but has a full seamonkey app image in it. (Usually seamonkey, anyway, when this happens.) It is still "root window" context. If she switches _icewm_ desktops (not Spaces) to where seamonkey is active, seamonkey works. Leave that icewm desktop and it's a plain "root" context rectangle again. I'm guessing here backing store and the apps being iconified/deiconified on desktop switch, but the top level apple land rectangle staying in place. Again, an icewm restart cleans up this "seamonkey image" remnant rectangle. Finally, if she uses Expose's "All windows" function all the white rectangles are represented. Iconified/withdrawn X11 apps are not. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson <cs(a)zip.com.au> DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ My own suspicion is that the universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we *can* suppose. - J.B.S. Haldane "On Being the Right Size" in the (1928) book "Possible Worlds"

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X11 2.3.1 on Leopard upgraded from Tiger
by Glenn Eychaner 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

We're having a bunch of problems with the X11 2.3.1 package. 1) In the Customize Applications panel, the "Command" and "Name" titles are reversed. 2) Frequently, the Applications menu stops being able to launch Xterms. 3) We're getting occasional freezes of the whole X11 system. I have attached a system.log output from one of the machines that's having the most severe problems. I can only hope that stepping back to 2.3.0 works, and that I don't have to rebuild a whole bunch of machines. But somehow I doubt it today. In particular, we see a lot of this when trying to launch terminals: Dec 5 11:52:42 ObsMac2 login[39217]: USER_PROCESS: 39217 tty?? Dec 5 11:52:42 ObsMac2 login[39217]: DEAD_PROCESS: 39217 tty?? -G. -- Glenn Eychaner (geychaner(a)lco.cl) Telescope Systems Programmer, Las Campanas Observatory

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Re: [Xquartz-dev] some more "white rectangle" behaviour data
by Richard Tobin 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

> If she leaves her machine she uses fast user switching to go to the login > window. On return there are large while rectangles positioned where some > former apps used to be. They behave like the X11 root window; her X11 root > window context menus function in these areas. I too find that the white rectangles do not appear until I switch to the main "Mac" display and back again. Thereafter, they appear in both. This suggests a bug is not in the code that removes windows when going from X to Mac display, but in the code that restores them when switching the other way. Perhaps its test for which windows to revive is faulty. If I understand correctly, the function is RootlessShowAllWindows() in rootlessWindows.c. It restores all windows that are "realized", but I'm not sure how "realized" relates to "mapped". -- Richard -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.

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Re: [Xquartz-dev] X11 2.3.1 xgterm error (Jeremy Huddleston)
by Glenn Eychaner 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

On Dec 4, 2008, at 10:35 PM, xquartz-dev-request(a)lists.macosforge.org wrote: > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:34:21 -0800 > From: Jeremy Huddleston <jeremyhu(a)apple.com> > Subject: Re: [Xquartz-dev] X11 2.3.1 xgterm error > > Is xgterm running on the same system or is this over ssh? The xgterm is running on the same system as the X11. It seems to happen more frequently when I open a lot of xgterms. I can get it to happen to xterms too, with the message: Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x3803)! It usually seems to happen to the first xterm or xgterm that I open (the one that opened the X11 server in the first place). -G. -- Glenn Eychaner (geychaner(a)lco.cl) Telescope Systems Programmer, Las Campanas Observatory

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