[MacRuby-devel] PBI - MacRuby aux Fines Merbs...

[Matt Aimonetti]

>
> One thing the "cowboys", from Rails for instance, have done right
> is that there are tests for almost everything,
> which is something that is seriously lacking atm imo.
>

Rails testing suite is in a very sad state, however I do agree with you, and
I'll go further, we also need a test harness for developed apps. However,
Laurent is working on macruby on his own and the same thing goes for Rich
and HotCocoa. I guess we need to hear from them about what we can do to help
them out.

- Matt

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:50 AM, Eloy Duran <eloy.de.enige at gmail.com> wrote:

> * Focus on design and engineering
>>
>>  In an age of "cowboy programming", I find it refreshing to
>>  see that some programming projects actually embrace design
>>  and engineering.
>>
>
> One thing the "cowboys", from Rails for instance, have done right
> is that there are tests for almost everything,
> which is something that is seriously lacking atm imo.
>
> As I already discussed with Laurent, I especially would like to see
> full test/spec coverage for HotCocoa, because:
> (A) I think it's a good thing to do in any case, but that's just my
> opinion.
> (B) More importantly, HotCocoa will probably be the part of MacRuby
> that most rubyists will hack/contribute on. Without a full test suite
> it takes too much time to make it enjoyable for people to quickly write a
> good patch,
> because one has to trace through all the code.
>
> To put the money where my mouth is; I have started on writing specs for
> HotCocoa
> and will commit them once I feel it's a good enough starting point.
> (There's never enough time…)
>
> I would really like to hear the opinions from the main HotCocoa committers
> on this.
>
> PS: Credits to Laurent who has been making an effort on writing more and
> more tests for
> the core part of MacRuby! :)
>
>  * large, well-documented APIs
>>
>>  In a community dominated by a web framework (Rails) that
>>  has no defined API, I think this is quite noteworthy.
>>
>
>
> Serious??
> I have not yet seen any well documented API in MacRuby, I must have missed
> it.
> Could you explain which one(s) you mean?
>
>  Anyway, I started wondering whether any parts of Merb might be
>> useful for MacRuby to consider adopting.  For example:
>>
>> *  Merb, like Rails, defines conventions for directory layout.
>>   Would it make sense for MacRuby to have similar conventions?
>>
>> *  Merb stresses modularity very strongly, using gems to add
>>   "plugins", "slices", etc.  What kinds of modularity should
>>   we encourage for MacRuby, HotCocoa, etc?
>>
>
> These will at least be covered by Rucola again, once I have ported it to
> MacRuby.
> But because this will be quite an effort I would like to know from
> Laurent/Rich
> if we will not be duplicating functionality.
>
> - Eloy
>
>
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