[Xquartz-dev] xorg-server on Macports (works with Tiger)

[Jeremy Huddleston]

On Dec 29, 2008, at 03:11, Peter Dyballa wrote:

> Am 29.12.2008 um 11:42 schrieb Jeremy Huddleston:
>
>>> The ``??? stands for an apple. Is there no improvement for neither
>>> the list software nor Mail to handle UTF-8 or similiar encodings?

<snip/>

> I can send these characters to other lists (TeX, Emacs related). And  
> I can also send them to other accounts via the same eMail services  
> provider without loss of information.

Well... whatever the problem is, it's on your end.  I see the  in  
your mail just fine.

>>> The white rectangles did not reappear, and either the apple menu
>>> bar. When the X11 clients are visible, achieved by clicking at the
>>> X11 icon in dock, the apple menu bar is invisible. When I pick a
>>> Quartz application the X clients become invisible and the apple menu
>>> bar appears.
>>
>> Right, that's how it's supposed to be for fullscreen
>
> What I described is when I toggled full-screen mode off in the menu.
>
> BTW, the apple menu bar returned ... Meanwhile X11 and Quartz  
> clients can coexist on the same desktop as with original Apple X11.  
> Although the blackbox WM's dock is still missing ...

As mentioned before, that's probably because blackbox is placing it at  
a location that's at the bottom of the screen, and since entering  
fullscreen shrinks the "screen" by the height of the menubar, it's now  
offscreen.  Hopefully RandR will fix that when it gets added.

>>> In this state only Desktop Manager "feels" the mouse cursor and
>>> appears.
>>
>> I don't know what you mean by this...
>
> Information about the position of the cursor is leaking off the full- 
> screen X11.

What do you mean "leaking"?

> This information does not trigger Dock to appear but Desktop Manager  
> receives it and appears.

Well, that sounds like expected behavior to me...  If you want Desktop  
Manager to not appear, then disable that in its preferences.

>>> When I switch off full-screen mode in the preference pane, blackbox
>>> WM's "dock" never appears,
>>
>> That's probably because it is being rendered offscreen because the  
>> new
>> X11screen is a few pixels shorter now (because of the lack of the  
>> menu
>> bar).
>
> Blackbox WM's dock is at the bottom on its left side. It was visible  
> before I toggled full-screen. It is visible when I don't have full- 
> screen set in X11 preferences.

Yes.  See my explaination above for why that is happening.