[Xquartz-dev] 2.3.2_beta1

[George Peter Staplin]

Quoted Dave Ray <apple at jonive.com>:

> Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
>  >
>  >  Dave Ray wrote:
>  >> Copy/paste works as expected with xpbproxy, but only in the OS-X ->
>  >> X11 direction. I never thought to check in the other direction
> until I
>  >> read the recent post. Is this the intended behavior?
>  >
>  >Yes, we intend the synchronization to work
>  >both ways assuming you have the options checked in preferences.  The
>  >only option not currently implemented is 'copy on select'
>
> Okay, well than I have some interesting things to report. In X11
> preferences I have all the paste checkbox items checked.
>
> I can copy text from Textedit -> xterm, Textedit -> Eterm
>
> I can copy text from xterm -> Textedit, but NOT Eterm -> Textedit.
> Perhaps I need to recompile that with a flag of some sort.

I've never used Eterm, but if you select the text, and then do an  
Edit->Copy in the Mac menubar it may work.

> I can copy graphics from Preview -> Gimp, Photoshop -> Gimp and
> Graphic Converter -> Gimp.
>
> I can NOT copt graphics from Gimp -> any graphics app in OS-X.
>
> To copy from an X11 app to OS-X, I select the text/graphic, then use
> command-C in the OS-X menu, then I switch to the OS-X app and type
> command-V. Let me know if I'm doing something wrong.

OK, the graphical/image copying with the Gimp is different, due to  
fundamental architectural differences.  To copy an image with the Gimp  
go to the Gimp's Edit->Copy menu, and then you should be able to paste  
into Preview, and other Mac apps.  There is no consistent way for the  
Mac to trigger a copy in all X11 apps, due to the design of the X11  
mechanisms.

> Another observation:
> If the selected text/graphic is selected, and then deselected, the
> normal X11 behavior is to keep the last selected item in the X11
> clipboard buffer, even without explicitly using keys to copy. This is
> because X11 doesn't have global copy/paste keys like OS-X. I found
> that if I deselect the selected item in X11, and then use command-C,
> the item is in the X11 buffer but not copied to the OS-X clipboard.
> This is probably by design but I wanted to be sure.

Hmm.  I'm not sure I follow that.  Can you tell me step by step how to  
reproduce that with applications?

> I thought it would be useful for you to get this kind of feedback from
> someone not using quartz-wm.
>
>  >> John Koren wrote
>  >>> This results in a error message " A clipboard manager is already
>  >>> running.  pbproxy will not sync clipboard to pasteboard." being
>  >>> written in the system log.
>  >>
>  >> If you are getting this message, pbproxy is still being launched
>  >> somehow, even though it is not in your .xinitrc.
>  >
>  >Or any other application that claims the CLIPBOARD_MANAGER atom
>  >(xclipboard, klipper, etc).
>
> So, does this mean the message "pbproxy will not sync clipboard.." is
> a generic message that will be displayed in the startup logs if there
> is any conflict, even if pbproxy is not installed?

It basically means that the way that pbproxy works, it can clash with  
xclipboard and the like, so it doesn't try to fight with them if they  
are already running.


George
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