[Xquartz-dev] 1.4.2-apple20 -- ghosts!
Jeremy Huddleston
jeremyhu at berkeley.edu
Sat Oct 25 14:54:09 PDT 2008
There are two types of windows that are not decorated by the window
manager. In Terminal.app, run 'xwininfo', then click on the window in
X11 to get inof about it. Does it have override redirect set?
On Oct 25, 2008, at 13:57, Viv Kendon wrote:
> Well, they all correspond to windows that are not decorated by the
> window manager (sorry for not knowing technical term, they are all
> some sort of child window), and they are all opened and closed by
> mouse actions: click on main menu to get drop-down, click on root
> window to get fvwm menu, mouse grab and move a window triggers the
> little window that contains its coordinates. The ghosts appear
> after the corresponding window is finished with and gone (and should
> be completely forgotten), and are triggered by switching to Aqua
> from X. They then appear in full-screen X after switching back from
> Aqua. I can get them to disappear in X by reactivating the window
> they correspond to, but they come back on switching to Aqua again.
>
> I am happy to test further, though I may be a bit slow to respond
> for the next few days due to deadlines.
>
> -- Viv
>
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
>
>> I wonder if this is related to the "strange white rectangles"
>> issue... somehow we're mapping windows in quartz, but the
>> corresponding X11 window isn't mapped in X11, so the window
>> contents we're dumping is empty...
>>
>> hmm... I have a feeling this one's going to be a pain =/
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2008, at 13:06, Viv Kendon wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
>>>> 1.4.2-apple20 brings in the following changes over 1.4.2-apple19:
>>>> Fullscreen (same as Tiger)
>>> Cool -- thanks!!!!!
>>> I gave it a try, using fvwm2 as my window manager (as I used to
>>> run X under Tiger). I got some strange blank bits of screen
>>> persisting between X11 and Aqua related to transient menu
>>> windows. I launched an X verson of FireFox (from fink) (among
>>> other things) and some of the blank bits correspond to where the
>>> drop-down menus had been when I used them. The fvwm root menus
>>> also produced them. I couldn't quite figure out what was making
>>> them appear and disappear, it wasn't that I was switching back to
>>> Aqua while the menu was dropped down, it was one I'd used earlier
>>> that left a "ghost" (I supose it _is_ nearly Hallowe'en...). The
>>> ghost windows appeared on every one of my fvwm virtual "spaces" as
>>> well as in Aqua. Clicking in one of these white blanks while in
>>> Aqua would switch back to full screen X. They all vanished when I
>>> quit X. The mouse position was a bit inconsistent around these
>>> ghosts too when I had just switched back from Aqua, as though X
>>> hadn't caught up with where the mouse was.
>>> This is on a MacBook Air, using a fairly vanilla account that
>>> hasn't run X before (or at least, not for a long time). Obviously
>>> I had to drop in a .xinitrc, in which I tried to put almost
>>> everything from the system one (which makes it seem long, I've
>>> appended it below). I also have focus follows mouse selected
>>> (this shouldn't make any difference without quartz-wm running
>>> though, right?) And I wasn't running Spaces.
>>> I actually ran fink's xorg rather than Tiger's X11 under Tiger.
>>> One of the things it had which this doesn't is that when you moved
>>> a window you got an outline showing you where it was about to be
>>> placed (as well as the little counter giving the coordinates --
>>> that counter also leaves a ghost BTW). I'd really like that back
>>> if it isn't too hard to do.
>>> A thought...have there been changes that mean I should recompile
>>> fvwm and related dependencies against this latest X11???
>>> Meanwhile, I'm a bit mission critical on a bunch of stuff for the
>>> next week, so I'm sticking to rootless+Spaces for my regular
>>> work. It seems to be working well (thanks and kudos to all
>>> involved) but I'll be glad to leave the swooshing between spaces
>>> behind and go back to fvwm's simpler interface...
>>> cheers,
>>> -- Viv
>>> ________________________________________________
>>> Dr Viv Kendon http://quantum.leeds.ac.uk/~viv
>>> tel: +44 113 343 4864 Physics and Astronomy
>>> Quantum Information Group University of Leeds
>>> my .xinitrc:
>>> ------------
>>> #Make sure to get a fink path:
>>> . /sw/bin/init.sh
>>> #Want an xterm early in case of problems:
>>> xterm -n Local -T Local -bg lemonchiffon -sb -rightbar -sl 10000 -
>>> fn 9x15 -geometry 80x40+10+42 -ls &
>>> #Record how we just started up:
>>> echo $0 &
>>> echo display=$DISPLAY &
>>> # From /usr/X11/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc:
>>> userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
>>> usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
>>> sysresources=/usr/X11/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources
>>> sysmodmap=/usr/X11/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap
>>> # merge in defaults and keymaps
>>> if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
>>>
>>> if [ -x /usr/bin/cpp ] ; then
>>> xrdb -merge $sysresources
>>> else
>>> xrdb -nocpp -merge $sysresources
>>> fi
>>> fi
>>> if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
>>> xmodmap $sysmodmap
>>> fi
>>> if [ -f "$userresources" ]; then
>>>
>>> if [ -x /usr/bin/cpp ] ; then
>>> xrdb -merge "$userresources"
>>> else
>>> xrdb -nocpp -merge "$userresources"
>>> fi
>>> fi
>>> if [ -f "$usermodmap" ]; then
>>> xmodmap "$usermodmap"
>>> fi
>>> # start some nice programs
>>> # run the xinit.d stuff by hand to avoid doing the one for quartz-
>>> wm:
>>> if [ -d /usr/X11/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/10-fontdir.sh ] ; then
>>> . /usr/X11/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/10-fontdir.sh
>>> fi
>>> if [ -d /usr/X11/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/99-pbproxy.sh ] ; then
>>> . /usr/X11/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/99-pbproxy.sh
>>> fi
>>> # Note sure how many of these we need/want:
>>> # quartz-wm --only-proxy & # to proxy cut'n'paste
>>> # /sw/bin/autocutsel & # fix mozilla paste from
>>> aqua
>>> xsetroot -solid SeaGreen & # in case Xbackphoto is
>>> missing
>>> /sw/bin/qiv --root_s /Users/vmk/.fvwm/Xbackphoto.jpg &
>>> #Another xterm just to have a spare...
>>> xterm -n Local -T Local -bg lemonchiffon -sb -rightbar -sl 10000 -
>>> fn 9x15 -geometry 80x40+0+0 -ls &
>>> xclock -digital -geometry -10+0 &
>>> exec /sw/bin/fvwm2 2>>/Users/vmk/.fvwm/.fvwm2-errors
>>> exit
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>>
>
> ________________________________________________
> Dr Viv Kendon http://quantum.leeds.ac.uk/~viv
> tel: +44 113 343 4864 Physics and Astronomy
> Quantum Information Group University of Leeds
>
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