[Xquartz-dev] 2.3.1_rc* and usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/fonts.conf ???

Mon Sep 8 09:40:28 PDT 2008

I'll set that up when I get home tonight (moving fink aside to make  
sure it is not contributing).  FYI, fink does has its own  
libfontconfig.dyld, but it is a symlink to /usr/X11/lib/ 
libfontconfig.dylib

I'll make sure I'm not setting an overriding environment variable.

Merle

On Sep 8, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:

> Then something is odd there...  Are you sure that your environment is
> clean?  I run that just fine here... Can you temporarily move /sw out
> of the way in case fink set env variables to force loading their /sw/
> lib/libfontconfig.dyld
>
> Also, I think there is an envvar you can set to override the default
> fonts.Fong file... Make sure you didn't set that
>
> On Sep 8, 2008, at 4:02, Merle Reinhart <merlereinhart at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> [LeoMacPro:~] merle% which fc-list
>> /usr/X11/bin/fc-list
>> [LeoMacPro:~] merle% fc-list
>> Fontconfig error: Cannot load config file "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/
>> fonts.conf"
>> Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file
>> Luxi Serif:style=Regular
>> LucidaBright:style=Italic
>> Utopia:style=Bold Italic
>> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
>> Serto Malankara:style=Regular
>> Luxi Serif:style=Bold
>> Serto Mardin:style=Regular
>> LucidaTypewriter:style=Sans Bold
>> Fixed:style=Bold
>> Bitstream Vera Sans:style=Oblique
>> Estrangelo Edessa:style=Regular
>> Serto Kharput:style=Regular
>> Times:style=Bold Italic
>> Clean:style=Regular
>> Luxi Mono:style=Bold
>> Utopia:style=Bold
>> Estrangelo Nisibin:style=Regular
>> ClearlyU PUA:style=Regular
>> Bitstream Vera Sans:style=Roman
>> Charter:style=Bold Italic
>> Luxi Sans:style=Bold
>> Serto Batnan:style=Bold
>> Estrangelo Midyat:style=Regular
>> Estrangelo Talada:style=Regular
>> Luxi Sans:style=Regular
>> Courier:style=Regular
>> Charter:style=Bold
>> Helvetica:style=Oblique
>> LucidaBright:style=Regular
>> Terminal:style=Bold
>> Estrangelo Quenneshrin:style=Regular
>> Serto Jerusalem:style=Regular
>> East Syriac Ctesiphon:style=Regular
>> Fixed:style=Bold SemiCondensed
>> Serto Jerusalem Outline:style=Regular
>> Fixed:style=SemiCondensed
>> Bitstream Charter:style=Normal
>> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique
>> Times:style=Bold
>> Courier 10 Pitch:style=Normal
>> Charter:style=Italic
>> Luxi Mono:style=Regular
>> Estrangelo Antioch:style=Regular
>> Courier:style=Oblique
>> Newspaper:style=Regular
>> Serto Urhoy:style=Bold
>> Times:style=Italic
>> ClearlyU:style=Regular
>> Lucida:style=Sans Bold
>> Bitstream Vera Sans:style=Bold
>> Fixed:style=Oblique SemiCondensed
>> Fixed:style=Oblique
>> LucidaTypewriter:style=Sans
>> New Century Schoolbook:style=Bold
>> ClearlyU Alternate Glyphs:style=Regular
>> Utopia:style=Italic
>> Courier:style=Bold Oblique
>> Lucida:style=Sans Italic
>> Bitstream Vera Serif:style=Roman
>> Cursor:style=Medium
>> Lucida:style=Sans
>> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique
>> Serto Urhoy:style=Regular
>> Luxi Serif:style=Oblique
>> Bitstream Vera Sans:style=Bold Oblique
>> Luxi Serif:style=Bold Oblique
>> Serto Batnan:style=Regular
>> Helvetica:style=Bold
>> Times:style=Regular
>> New Century Schoolbook:style=Bold Italic
>> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
>> Luxi Mono:style=Oblique
>> Lucida:style=Sans Bold Italic
>> Helvetica:style=Regular
>> Luxi Sans:style=Oblique
>> Serto Mardin:style=Bold
>> Estrangelo TurAbdin:style=Regular
>> Charter:style=Regular
>> Courier 10 Pitch:style=Bold
>> Serto Jerusalem:style=Italic
>> Terminal:style=Regular
>> Serto Jerusalem:style=Bold
>> Fixed:style=ko
>> Fixed:style=ja
>> Fixed:style=Regular
>> Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
>> New Century Schoolbook:style=Italic
>> Luxi Sans:style=Bold Oblique
>> Bitstream Vera Serif:style=Bold
>> Luxi Mono:style=Bold Oblique
>> Courier:style=Bold
>> Utopia:style=Regular
>> Goha\-Tibeb Zemen:style=Regular
>> Estrangelo Nisibin Outline:style=Regular
>> East Syriac Adiabene:style=Regular
>> Bitstream Charter:style=Bold
>> New Century Schoolbook:style=Regular
>> [LeoMacPro:~] merle%
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm only seeing the default fonts.  None of the custom, non-X11 fonts
>> (I've converted the /Library/Fonts *.dfont's into *.ttf's so that I
>> can use fonts like Apple Chancery, Zapfino, etc in X11 programs, plus
>> I have some Adobe .otf fonts in /Library/Fonts that also don't show  
>> up
>> [Garamond Premier Pro for example]).
>>
>> If I copy the /usr/X11/lib/X11/fontconfig/fonts.conf to /usr/X11/lib/
>> X11/fonts/fonts.conf, then all these show up in fc-list and are
>> available to gimp, etc.
>>
>> I do not have a custom ~/.fonts.conf.  However, making one that's a
>> copy of the one in fontconfig doesn't work.
>>
>>
>> Merle
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2008, at 3:44 AM, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm... what happens if you run 'fc-list' (with the fonts.conf not
>>> copied over).  Do you see your custom fonts?
>>>
>>> Do you have a custom ~/.fonts.conf?
>>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2008, at 19:15, Merle Reinhart wrote:
>>>
>>>> I get the same errors with *just* the delta update and with *just*
>>>> the
>>>> combo update.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using gimp 2.4.5 built via fink.  Looking at the resulting
>>>> binary
>>>> (yes, I did
>>>> rebuild it to see if the problem resolved itself) shows that it is
>>>> using the
>>>> X11 provided fontconfig:
>>>>
>>>> otool -L /sw/bin/gimp-2.4 | grep font
>>>>   /usr/X11/lib/libfontconfig.1.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0,
>>>> current version 5.0.0)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I copy the fonts.conf in fontconfig over to fonts, then gimp
>>>> doesn't throw the error
>>>> and it sees all the non-X11 fonts.  Rebuilding the caches didn't
>>>> make
>>>> any difference.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, that's what I'm seeing.
>>>>
>>>> Merle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 7, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does it work fine for you with *just* the combo update?  The file
>>>>> should be in /usr/X11/share/fontconfig/fonts.conf in both 10.5.5
>>>>> and
>>>>> 2.3.1_rc6...
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that gimp and inkscape don't link against our
>>>>> libfontconfig... The version in their bundle must assume the
>>>>> location
>>>>> of fonts.Fong to be at that old location... They should just use
>>>>> our
>>>>> libfontconfig rather than building their own
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 7, 2008, at 8:35, Merle Reinhart <merlereinhart at mac.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeremy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was just trying out a particular sequence of OS X updates (the
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> seed combo update) and X11-2.3.1_rc6.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All is working well, except that gimp and inkscape have been
>>>>>> throwing
>>>>>> an error:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fontconfig error: Cannot load config file "/usr/X11/lib/X11/ 
>>>>>> fonts/
>>>>>> fonts.conf"
>>>>>> Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file
>>>>>> Fontconfig error: Cannot load config file "/usr/X11/lib/X11/ 
>>>>>> fonts/
>>>>>> fonts.conf"
>>>>>> Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking at things, yes, it looks like in this situation of going
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> the X11 included with 10.5.5 (combo update from 10.5.4) to
>>>>>> X11-2.3.1_rc6, that fonts.conf has gone missing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other than the error, the impact appears to be any user installed
>>>>>> fonts are completely ignored and the apps only see the X11 system
>>>>>> fonts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I copy the fonts.conf from a previous system (the file is  
>>>>>> dated
>>>>>> Dec
>>>>>> 5, 2007 so I'm not completely sure what version of X11 (Xquartz
>>>>>> or OS
>>>>>> X update) it originally came from) then I don't get the errors
>>>>>> and I
>>>>>> can see my non-System installed fonts again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I don't know if fonts.conf should have been included and
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> missed or not, but there is a potential for breakage in the near
>>>>>> future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Merle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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