[Xquartz-dev] X11 2.2.0_rc1

[Jeremy Huddleston]

Yes, it is an exaggeration to say that it didn't work.
It is _not_ an exaggeration to say that it has been deprecated since  
2005.
It is also true that the config files that xmkmf/imake pull from for  
building on darwin are outdated and in error.  When I said that it  
didn't work, what I meant was that it didn't work correctly.
Additionally, xmkmf and imake are not removed by our installer if they  
exist.

If MacPorts and fink want to support imake/xmkmf, they are free to do  
so, but they will need to take responsibility for updating the old/ 
deprecated configuration files for building on darwin.

As for apps that still use it as part of their build system, I'm in no  
way preventing you or fink or macports from installing imake or  
xmkmf.  I'd encourage these packages to change to another build  
system, but in the mean time, for the few packages that do use it,  
MacPorts and fink can just install their own copy of xmkmf/imake in / 
sw or /opt/local.

--Jeremy

On Apr 5, 2008, at 14:55, Martin Costabel wrote:
> Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
> []
>> True... and this is fixed in his autoconf as well.  I understand  
>> the 'autoconf bugfix delay' issue... I just don't think it  
>> justifies including xmkmf and imake which don't work outside of  
>> providing a workaround for this autoconf bug =/
>
> After some more reading, I have to come back on this. Have you  
> talked to your macports friends about this question? As far as I can  
> tell, macports has, as does Fink, quite a few packages, and among  
> them heavyweights such as xfig, that depend on xmkmf/imake for their  
> whole build system, not only as an aide to autoconf. There are the  
> Xaw3d and xpm libraries, some parts of vnc packages, such as  
> tightvnc, plus a couple of other packages, that have in their  
> Portfile instead of other build directives, simply "use_xmkmf yes".
>
> Maintainers and users of these packages won't be happy if this  
> doesn't work any more. I agree fully that it is a terrible build  
> system, but it is still used, and you are exaggerating when you say  
> that it didn't work.
>
> -- 
> Martin
>
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