April 2007 - macports-users - lists.macosforge.org

Inactive/Uninstalled confusion
by Romain 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

Hello list, I've come across a strange behaviour in DarwinPorts (1.3.2), that I thought I'd read would be corrected in MacPorts (1.4). Well, apparently not. I've just upgraded and it's still there. The problem is that MacPorts sometimes thinks old versions of an active port are still installed, and sometimes not. Confusing to say the least. Example : bagheera:~ smokey$ sudo port location atk The following versions of atk are currently installed: atk 1.12.2_0 atk 1.12.4_0 atk 1.18.0_0 (active) Error: port location failed: Registry error: Please specify the full version as recorded in the port registry. bagheera:~ smokey$ sudo port uninstall atk-1.12.2_0 Error: port uninstall failed: Registry error: atk-1.12.2_0 not registered as installed. bagheera:~ smokey$ So it seems that the port is indeed uninstalled, but for some reason MP remembers it as installed but inactive. Is anyone else experiencing this ? If so, it might be a cause for a neat bug report. Cheers, Romain

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eaccelerator
by Alex Kac 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

How does something get chosen to be in macports? Specifically, I'm curious about eaccelerator.net Alex Kac - President and Founder Web Information Solutions, Inc. - Microsoft Certified Partner "The person who is not hungry says that the coconut has a hard shell." -- African Tribal Saying

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Re: Python portgroups: 2.4 vs 2.5
by Alastair Rankine 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

On 09/04/2007, at 11:58 PM, Yves de Champlain wrote: > py- ports use python24 > py25- ports use python25 > > Now, of course, there are some python24 ports that could use > python25. If you want such a port to be available, you can ring > the maintainer for this port, you can also make and test some > Portfiles of your own and submit them. OK, but is this really the best solution going forward? I imagine that most, if not all, of the py- ports could also run under python 2.5, so we want them all to be duplicated? Does this bother anyone else but me? If not, I'll just STFU. Thanks,

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Installing pgplot using MacPorts
by Samuel H. Dupree, Jr. 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

I'm running MacPort version 1.4 on a Mac G4 under Mac OS 10.4.9. I'm attempting to install pgplot and I'm running into the following messages: ---> Building gcc34 with target bootstrap-lean make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. : make ; exec true "AR_FLAGS=rc" "CC_FOR_BUILD=/usr/bin/gcc-3.3" "CFLAGS=-g -O2" "CXXFLAGS=-g -O2" "CFLAGS_FOR_BUILD=" "CFLAGS_FOR_TARGET=-O2 -g -O2" "INSTALL=/usr/bin/install -c" "INSTALL_DATA=/usr/bin/install -c -m 644" "INSTALL_PROGRAM=/usr/bin/install -c" "INSTALL_SCRIPT=/usr/bin/install -c" "LDFLAGS=" "LIBCFLAGS=-g -O2" "LIBCFLAGS_FOR_TARGET=-O2 -g -O2" "MAKE=make" "MAKEINFO=makeinfo --split-size=5000000 " "PICFLAG=" "PICFLAG_FOR_TARGET=" "SHELL=/bin/sh" "EXPECT=expect" "RUNTEST=runtest" "RUNTESTFLAGS=" "exec_prefix=/opt/local" "infodir=/opt/local/share/info" "libdir=/opt/local/lib/gcc-3.4" "prefix=/opt/local" "tooldir=/opt/local/powerpc-apple-darwin8.9.0" "AR=ar" "AS=as" "CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.3" "CXX=c++" "LD=ld" "LIBCFLAGS=-g -O2" "NM=nm" "PICFLAG=" "RANLIB=ranlib" "DESTDIR=" DO=all multi-do Bootstrapping the compiler make CC=" stage1/xgcc -Bstage1/ -B/opt/local/powerpc-apple-darwin8.9.0/bin/" CC_FOR_BUILD=" stage1/xgcc -Bstage1/ -B/opt/local/powerpc-apple-darwin8.9.0/bin/" \ STAGE_PREFIX=stage1/ \ ADAFLAGS="" CFLAGS="-g -O2" LDFLAGS="" WARN_CFLAGS="\$(GCC_WARN_CFLAGS)" STRICT_WARN="-pedantic -Wno-long-long -Wold-style-definition " libdir=/opt/local/lib/gcc-3.4 LANGUAGES="c gcov gcov-dump c++ f77 java objc" MAKEINFO="makeinfo --split-size=5000000" MAKEINFOFLAGS="--no-split" MAKEOVERRIDES= OUTPUT_OPTION="-o \$@" \ CFLAGS="-g -O2" WERROR="" stage1/xgcc -Bstage1/ -B/opt/local/powerpc-apple-darwin8.9.0/bin/ -c -g -O2 -DIN_GCC -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -pedantic -Wno-long-long -Wold-style-definition -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DGENERATOR_FILE -I. -I. -I/opt/local/var/db/dports/build/_opt_local_var_db_dports_sources_rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dports_lang_gcc34/work/gcc-3.4.6/gcc -I/opt/local/var/db/dports/build/_opt_local_var_db_dports_sources_rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dports_lang_gcc34/work/gcc-3.4.6/gcc/. -I/opt/local/var/db/dports/build/_opt_local_var_db_dports_sources_rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dports_lang_gcc34/work/gcc-3.4.6/gcc/../include /opt/local/var/db/dports/build/_opt_local_var_db_dports_sources_rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dports_lang_gcc34/work/gcc-3.4.6/gcc/genmodes.c -o genmodes.o In file included from /opt/local/var/db/dports/build/_opt_local_var_db_dports_sources_rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dports_lang_gcc34/work/gcc-3.4.6/gcc/genmodes.c:23: /opt/local/var/db/dports/build/_opt_local_var_db_dports_sources_rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dports_lang_gcc34/work/gcc-3.4.6/gcc/system.h:319:20: malloc.h: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [genmodes.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [stage2_build] Error 2 make: *** [bootstrap-lean] Error 2 Warning: the following items did not execute (for gcc34): com.apple.activate com.apple.build com.apple.destroot com.apple.install Am I missing some dependency or did I do something wrong? Any suggestions? Sam Dupree.

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Re: BIND9 stopped working...
by Alex Kac 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:27 AM, Daniel J. Luke wrote: > On Apr 8, 2007, at 8:46 PM, Alex Kac wrote: >> Nope. I have no restrictions at all. What's weird is if I restart >> it, it works fine. Not an option for a server, though. > > if you restart the server? > > What if you just restart bind? > > or kill -HUP it ? Well that's what I mean. If I HUP named, its fine. Works great. No problem. But if I restart the server then it doesn't work. It seems like on startup it doesn't realize what IP addresses I have and so only listens on localhost. If I HUP it after the server is running, it realizes what IPs I have and starts just fine. I'm going to play with the config file. I just don't understand why it was working fine before, but not after the changeip script. > >> On Apr 8, 2007, at 7:41 PM, Daniel J. Luke wrote: >> >>> Do you have listen-on or allow-query options set in your >>> named.conf file? >>> >>> You probably just have to update the address from the old IP to >>> the new one in there. > > -- > Daniel J. Luke > +========================================================+ > | *---------------- dluke(a)geeklair.net ----------------* | > | *-------------- http://www.geeklair.net -------------* | > +========================================================+ > | Opinions expressed are mine and do not necessarily | > | reflect the opinions of my employer. | > +========================================================+ > > Alex Kac - President and Founder Web Information Solutions, Inc. - Microsoft Certified Partner "The person who is not hungry says that the coconut has a hard shell." -- African Tribal Saying

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Python portgroups: 2.4 vs 2.5
by Alastair Rankine 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

Hi, With the recent release of MacPorts 1.4 it seems there is a new portgroup for Python 2.5, in addition to the old portgroup for Python 2.4 Unless I'm missing something, it means that ports that require Python 2.5 should use the new portgroup, and ports that don't should continue to use the 2.4 portgroup? Or is it the case that all compatible ports in the 2.4 portgroup are going to be migrated to the new 2.5 portgroup? (I'll assume not for now, as this seems like a big job) So what if you want to install a python library from a port that happens to use portgroup 2.4 but would quite happily run under Python 2.5? Is there a way of doing this? It seems from a short play that installing a port that uses the 2.4 portgroup will result in Python 2.4 being dragged in as a dependency, even though Python 2.5 is installed and compatible. Just a bit confused here, can someone point the way?

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duplicate entries in "port list installed"
by Bengt Nilsson 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

Why are so many duplicate entries in "port list installed"? Is it something wrong? # port list installed 2Pong @0.6 games/2Pong 4th @3.5a2 lang/4th 54321 @1.0.2001.11.16 games/54321 9e @1.0 archivers/9e Affiche @0.6.0 aqua/Affiche AppKiDo @0.961 aqua/AppKiDo AquaLess @1.5 aqua/AquaLess ArpSpyX @1.1 aqua/ArpSpyX Xft2 @2.1.7 x11/Xft2 antigraingeometry @2.5 graphics/ antigraingeometry antigraingeometry @2.5 graphics/ antigraingeometry apr @1.2.8 devel/apr apr @1.2.8 devel/apr apr-util @1.2.8 devel/apr-util apr-util @1.2.8 devel/apr-util aspell @0.60.5 textproc/aspell atk @1.18.0 devel/atk atk @1.18.0 devel/atk audiofile @0.2.6 audio/audiofile autoconf @2.61 devel/autoconf autoconf @2.61 devel/autoconf automake @1.10 devel/automake automake @1.10 devel/automake cairo @1.4.2 graphics/cairo cairo @1.4.2 graphics/cairo cmake @2.4.6 devel/cmake cracklib @2.7 security/cracklib db4 @4.3.29 databases/db4 db44 @4.4.20 databases/db44 dbh @1.0.24 databases/dbh expat @2.0.0 textproc/expat ffcall @1.10 devel/ffcall fontconfig @2.4.2 graphics/fontconfig fontconfig @2.4.2 graphics/fontconfig freetype @2.3.3 print/freetype freetype @2.3.3 print/freetype freetype @2.3.3 print/freetype gcc41 @4.1.2 lang/gcc41 gettext @0.16.1 devel/gettext gettext @0.16.1 devel/gettext glib1 @1.2.10 devel/glib1 glib2 @2.12.11 devel/glib2 glib2 @2.12.11 devel/glib2 gmp @4.2.1 devel/gmp gnustep-make @1.13.0 gnustep/gnustep-make gtk-xfce-engine @2.2.7 devel/gtk-xfce-engine gtk1 @1.2.10 x11/gtk1 gtk2 @2.10.11 x11/gtk2 gtk2 @2.10.11 x11/gtk2 jpeg @6b graphics/jpeg libart_lgpl @2.3.19 graphics/libart_lgpl libgpg-error @1.5 devel/libgpg-error libiconv @1.11 textproc/libiconv libiconv @1.11 textproc/libiconv libmikmod @3.2.0-beta2 audio/libmikmod libogg @1.1.3 multimedia/libogg libpng @1.2.16 graphics/libpng librsync @0.9.7 net/librsync libsdl @1.2.11 devel/libsdl libsdl_image @1.2.5 devel/libsdl_image libsdl_mixer @1.2.7 audio/libsdl_mixer libtasn1 @0.3.4 devel/libtasn1 libtool @1.5.22 devel/libtool libungif @4.1.4 graphics/libungif libvorbis @1.1.2 audio/libvorbis libxfce4mcs @4.2.2 devel/libxfce4mcs libxfce4util @4.2.2 devel/libxfce4util libxfcegui4 @4.2.2 devel/libxfcegui4 libxml2 @2.6.27 textproc/libxml2 libxml2 @2.6.27 textproc/libxml2 libxslt @1.1.20 textproc/libxslt mpfr @2.2.1 devel/mpfr ncurses @5.6 devel/ncurses ncurses @5.6 devel/ncurses ncursesw @5.6 devel/ncursesw ncursesw @5.6 devel/ncursesw neon @0.26.3 www/neon neon @0.26.3 www/neon openssl @0.9.8e devel/openssl openssl @0.9.8e devel/openssl pango @1.16.1 x11/pango pango @1.16.1 x11/pango perl5.8 @5.8.8 lang/perl5.8 pkgconfig @0.21 devel/pkgconfig python23 @2.3.6 lang/python23 python24 @2.4.3 lang/python24 rdiff-backup @1.0.4 python/rdiff-backup readline @5.2.001 devel/readline render @0.9 x11/render rxvt @2.7.10 x11/rxvt smpeg @0.4.4 multimedia/smpeg sqlite3 @3.3.14 databases/sqlite3 sqlite3 @3.3.14 databases/sqlite3 subversion @1.4.3 devel/subversion subversion @1.4.3 devel/subversion tiff @3.8.2 graphics/tiff xrender @0.9.0 x11/xrender zlib @1.2.3 archivers/zlib Regards, Bengt Nilsson

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py-wxpython and py-wxpython26 fails on Intel
by Nigel King 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

Hi all, While I have py-wxpython (2.8.3.0_0) installed on PPC I am having great difficulty trying to install any version of py-wxpython on Intel. port is version 1.400 port install py-wxpython fails building wxWidgets ==============-error log wxWidgets ---> Building wxWidgets Error: Target com.apple.build returned: shell command "cd /opt/local/ var/db/dports/build/ _opt_local_var_db_dports_sources_rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dp orts_graphics_wxWidgets/work/wxWidgets-2.8.3/build && make -C contrib/ src/gizmos" returned error 2 Command output: /usr/bin/g++-4.0 -dynamiclib -single_module - headerpad_max_install_names -o /opt/local/var/db/dports/build/ _opt_local_var_db_dports_sources_rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dp orts_graphics_wxWidgets/work/wxWidgets-2.8.3/build/lib/ libwx_macu_gizmos-2.8.0.1.1.dylib gizmosdll_dynamicsash.o gizmosdll_editlbox.o gizmosdll_ledctrl.o gizmosdll_multicell.o gizmosdll_splittree.o gizmosdll_statpict.o -L/opt/local/lib -L/opt/ local/lib -framework QuickTime -framework IOKit -framework Carbon - framework Cocoa -framework System -L/opt/local/var/db/dports/build/ _opt_local_var_db_dports_sources_rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dp orts_graphics_wxWidgets/work/wxWidgets-2.8.3/build/lib -install_name / opt/local/lib/libwx_macu_gizmos-2.8.0.dylib -compatibility_version 2.0 -current_version 2.1 -lz -lpthread -liconv -lwx_macu-2.8 - lwxregexu-2.8 -L/opt/local/lib -L/opt/local/lib -framework QuickTime -framework IOKit -framework Carbon -framework Cocoa -framework System -lz -lpthread -liconv -lpng -lz -ljpeg -ltiff -framework WebKit ld: warning prebinding disabled because dependent library: /opt/local/ lib/libz.1.dylib is not prebound ld: Undefined symbols: __ZN10wxListCtrl8SetFocusEv /usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed make: *** [/opt/local/var/db/dports/build/ _opt_local_var_db_dports_sources_rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dp orts_graphics_wxWidgets/work/wxWidgets-2.8.3/build/lib/ libwx_macu_gizmos-2.8.0.1.1.dylib] Error 1 Error: The following dependencies failed to build: wxWidgets ============== end of error log wxWidgets Not understanding the above I noted that py-wxpython26 was available. I installed wxWidgets without problem but py-wxpython26 fails port install py-wxpython26 ==============-error log py-wxpython26 ---> Building py-wxpython26 with target build Error: Target com.apple.build returned: shell command "cd "/opt/local/ var/db/dports/build/ _opt_local_var_db_dports_sources_rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dp orts_python_py-wxpython26/work/wxPython-src-2.6.3.3/wxPython" && WX_CONFIG="/opt/local/bin/wx-config" UNICODE="1" WXPORT="mac" /opt/ local/bin/python2.4 setup.py build" returned error 1 Command output: src/helpers.cpp:2763: error: 'stream' was not declared in this scope src/helpers.cpp:2763: error: expected ',' or ';' before '{' token src/helpers.cpp:2785: error: 'bool wxPyImageHandler::LoadFile' is not a static member of 'class wxPyImageHandler' src/helpers.cpp:2785: error: 'wxImage' was not declared in this scope src/helpers.cpp:2785: error: 'image' was not declared in this scope src/helpers.cpp:2785: error: 'wxInputStream' was not declared in this scope src/helpers.cpp:2785: error: 'stream' was not declared in this scope src/helpers.cpp:2786: error: expected primary-expression before 'bool' src/helpers.cpp:2786: error: expected primary-expression before 'int' src/helpers.cpp:2786: error: initializer expression list treated as compound expression src/helpers.cpp:2786: error: expected ',' or ';' before '{' token src/helpers.cpp:2810: error: 'bool wxPyImageHandler::SaveFile' is not a static member of 'class wxPyImageHandler' src/helpers.cpp:2810: error: 'wxImage' was not declared in this scope src/helpers.cpp:2810: error: 'image' was not declared in this scope src/helpers.cpp:2810: error: 'wxOutputStream' was not declared in this scope src/helpers.cpp:2810: error: 'stream' was not declared in this scope src/helpers.cpp:2811: error: expected primary-expression before 'bool' src/helpers.cpp:2811: error: initializer expression list treated as compound expression src/helpers.cpp:2811: error: expected ',' or ';' before '{' token src/helpers.cpp:2833: error: 'int wxPyImageHandler::GetImageCount' is not a static member of 'class wxPyImageHandler' src/helpers.cpp:2833: error: 'wxInputStream' was not declared in this scope src/helpers.cpp:2833: error: 'stream' was not declared in this scope src/helpers.cpp:2833: error: expected ',' or ';' before '{' token src/helpers.cpp: In function 'bool wxPyCheckForApp()': src/helpers.cpp:877: warning: control reaches end of non-void function src/helpers.cpp: In member function 'bool wxPyInputStream::eof()': src/helpers.cpp:1219: warning: control reaches end of non-void function src/helpers.cpp: In member function 'int wxPyInputStream::tell()': src/helpers.cpp:1366: warning: control reaches end of non-void function error: command '/usr/bin/gcc-4.0' failed with exit status 1 Error: Status 1 encountered during processing. ============== end of error log Any suggestions or further info required? Nigel King

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autoconf build failure
by Dan Stowell 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

Hi - Installing autoconf fails for me. I'd be grateful for any tips on how to fix this. Here's the output: dan$ sudo port selfupdate Password: DarwinPorts base version 1.400 installed Downloaded MacPorts base version 1.400 The MacPorts installation is not outdated and so was not updated selfupdate done! dan$ sudo port clean autoconf Password: ---> Cleaning autoconf dan$ sudo port install autoconf ---> Fetching autoconf ---> Verifying checksum(s) for autoconf ---> Extracting autoconf ---> Configuring autoconf ---> Building autoconf with target all Error: Target com.apple.build returned: shell command "cd "/opt/local/var/db/dports/build/_private_opt_local_var_db_dports_sources_rsync.rsync.darwinports.org_dpupdate_dports_devel_autoconf/work/autoconf-2.61" && make all" returned error 2 Command output: mv autom4te.tmp autom4te cd ../lib && make autom4te.cfg rm -f autom4te.cfg autom4te.tmp sed -e 's|@SHELL[@]|/bin/sh|g' -e 's|@PERL[@]|/opt/local/bin/perl|g' -e 's|@bindir[@]|/opt/local/bin|g' -e 's|@datadir[@]|/opt/local/share/autoconf|g' -e 's|@prefix[@]|/opt/local|g' -e 's|@autoconf-name[@]|'`echo autoconf | sed 's,x,x,'`'|g' -e 's|@autoheader-name[@]|'`echo autoheader | sed 's,x,x,'`'|g' -e 's|@autom4te-name[@]|'`echo autom4te | sed 's,x,x,'`'|g' -e 's|@M4[@]|/usr/bin/gm4|g' -e 's|@AWK[@]|gawk|g' -e 's|@VERSION[@]|2.61|g' -e 's|@PACKAGE_NAME[@]|GNU Autoconf|g' ./autom4te.in >autom4te.tmp chmod a-w autom4te.tmp mv autom4te.tmp autom4te.cfg cd ../lib/m4sugar && make version.m4 { \ echo '# This file is part of -*- Autoconf -*-.'; \ echo '# Version of Autoconf.'; \ echo '# Copyright (C) 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002'; \ echo '# Free Software Foundation, Inc.'; \ echo ;\ echo 'm4_define([m4_PACKAGE_NAME], [GNU Autoconf])'; \ echo 'm4_define([m4_PACKAGE_TARNAME], [autoconf])'; \ echo 'm4_define([m4_PACKAGE_VERSION], [2.61])'; \ echo 'm4_define([m4_PACKAGE_STRING], [GNU Autoconf 2.61])'; \ echo 'm4_define([m4_PACKAGE_BUGREPORT], [bug-autoconf(a)gnu.org]'; \ } >version.m4 autom4te_perllibdir='..'/lib AUTOM4TE_CFG='../lib/autom4te.cfg' ../bin/autom4te -B '..'/lib -B '..'/lib --language M4sh --cache '' --melt ./autoconf.as -o autoconf.in dyld: lazy symbol binding failed: Symbol not found: _sprintf$LDBLStub Referenced from: /opt/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/darwin-2level/auto/Data/Dumper/Dumper.bundle Expected in: dynamic lookup dyld: Symbol not found: _sprintf$LDBLStub Referenced from: /opt/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/darwin-2level/auto/Data/Dumper/Dumper.bundle Expected in: dynamic lookup make[1]: *** [autoconf.in] Trace/BPT trap make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Error: Status 1 encountered during processing. I wish I could decode this myself ;) Thanks Dan

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gnome-applets install failure
by marcus aurelius 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

I'm new to the list and if this has been covered earlier I apologize. I haven't been on a mailing list in a very long time (try Windows 95 mailing list) and I'm just not seeing an easy way to search the archives - apologies if it's right in plain view. Ran port install gnome and things were chugging merrily along but I've run into an error I just don't know how to fix or work around... port install choked on gnome-applets with the following error messages... ---> Building gnome-applets with target all [ cut ] Making all in geyes Making all in themes Making all in docs xsltproc -o geyes-C.omf --stringparam db2omf.basename geyes --stringparam db2omf.format 'docbook' --stringparam db2omf.dtd "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN" --stringparam db2omf.lang C --stringparam db2omf.omf_dir "/opt/local/share/omf" --stringparam db2omf.help_dir "/opt/local/share/gnome/help" --stringparam db2omf.omf_in "`pwd`/./geyes.omf.in" `/opt/local/bin/pkg-config --variable db2omf gnome-doc-utils` C/geyes.xml db2omf: Could not construct the OMF maintainer element. Add an author, corpauthor, editor, othercredit, or publisher element with the role attribute set to "maintainer" to geyes.xml. make[3]: *** [geyes-C.omf] Error 10 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 Error: The following dependencies failed to build: gnome-desktop-suite gnome-applets gnome-audio gnome-backgrounds gnome-games guile gmp gnome-keyring-manager gnome-media gnome-python-desktop py-gnome libzvt py-orbit gnome-system-monitor gnome-user-docs gnome-utils gnopernicus gst-plugins-good gucharmap libgail-gnome libgtkhtml3 system-tools-backends vino gnutls libgcrypt libgpg-error libtasn1 opencdk yelp libgtkhtml zenity Error: Status 1 encountered during processing. -------- Is my mistake running 'install gnome' when i should have installed something else first (like install gnome-desktop-suite)? I just assumed that if I ran install gnome it would install things in the proper order by itself. Also, what exactly is a "roles attribute" and where would I add it in the geyes.xml file in each of the language subdirectories? Or, better yet is there an easy edit, say to the docs Makefile, that would get me around this? Any suggestions or instructions will be greatly appreciated (even rtfm as long as i'm told exactly which fm to r). :-) If it's important, this is on a macbook pro. thanks, mark ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather

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